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    Hi Wazkelly,

    Thanks for the info, I'm not quite there yet..I hope I don't get the buzzing but I will see after the solder. I'm hoping the conductive shielding paint does the job.

    Anyway, here is a pic of this thing I just built to help with drying, applying stains and finishes. It's 360 rotation and will will work for all my future builds. Works for me in the fact it's portable. (Please note I have no experience with woodworking but I gave it a go haha).

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    Cheers,

    Alkay.

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    Ok so I'm about to do the second coat of tru oil.

    I read that it's best to put on two to three coats before cutting and polishing, eventually building up to about 10 or more layers.

    I have 00-00 steel wool, can anyone tell me if that should be suitable?
    Then wipe down with a lint free cloth and repeat with each coat.

    Cheers,

    Alkay.

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    Hi Buddy, like the look of the finishing rotisserie. Reminds me of a kebab shop haha.

    Be careful not to apply too much as hanging vertically will naturally cause runs if coats have been overloaded. Suggest at least 6 or maybe 8 coats of TO before first sand back with 0000 steel wool or fine grade wet and dry as the layers are so thin and very easy to sand things back to bare wood without realising it. The upside is you can put another coat on after 6 - 8 hours depending on how warm the drying environment might be. On some of mine I would put a coat on in the morning before leaving for work and another upon arriving back home before settling down for an evening meal.

    Whilst there are many more coats it does take around 3 weeks at least to finish things off properly as you will need to sand it back at least 2 or maybe 3 times before the final wet sand and applying the car polish if you are chasing that super shiny glassy look. Best to leave it for at least a week or more for the very final coats to harden up ahead of the final wet sand and polish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    Hi Buddy, like the look of the finishing rotisserie. Reminds me of a kebab shop haha.

    Be careful not to apply too much as hanging vertically will naturally cause runs if coats have been overloaded. Suggest at least 6 or maybe 8 coats of TO before first sand back with 0000 steel wool or fine grade wet and dry as the layers are so thin and very easy to sand things back to bare wood without realising it. The upside is you can put another coat on after 6 - 8 hours depending on how warm the drying environment might be. On some of mine I would put a coat on in the morning before leaving for work and another upon arriving back home before settling down for an evening meal.

    Whilst there are many more coats it does take around 3 weeks at least to finish things off properly as you will need to sand it back at least 2 or maybe 3 times before the final wet sand and applying the car polish if you are chasing that super shiny glassy look. Best to leave it for at least a week or more for the very final coats to harden up ahead of the final wet sand and polish.
    Hahaha a rotisserie you say. I don't think I'll eat whats cooking though haha. The fireplace might if I don't get this one right haha.

    I have applied the oil onto the lint free rag and carefully applied it onto the guitar and neck. Seems to be working quite well and no run off.

    Ok so I read your comments and understand, several coats to go before sanding back.

    What wet and dry fine grade should I be using?

    Also the car polish. What should I use?
    I really want that super shiny finish and understand it takes time.

    It may need longer drying time. That kebab machine is in the garage and it gets down close to zero sometimes.

    Anyway, here's the rotisserie with a second coat on the body haha. Starting to shine already.

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    Cheers,

    Alkay.

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    For wet & dry nothing under 800 to start with otherwise the finish disappears really quick. For subsequent wet sanding suggest using 1200, 1500, 2000 and buy some micro mesh Pads to do the very final sanding that goes through 4000, 6000, 8000, then 12000 before you add the car polish. Here is a shot of the stuff. Had to buy finer grade wet & dry paper at an auto shop - Autobahn which is where I bought the polish too and reckon Supercheap should have the supplies too..
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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    For wet & dry nothing under 800 to start with otherwise the finish disappears really quick. For subsequent wet sanding suggest using 1200, 1500, 2000 and buy some micro mesh Pads to do the very final sanding that goes through 4000, 6000, 8000, then 12000 before you add the car polish. Here is a shot of the stuff. Had to buy finer grade wet & dry paper at an auto shop - Autobahn which is where I bought the polish too and reckon Supercheap should have the supplies too..
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    Thanks stan and wazkelly.
    I have read that there are several ways to wet sand using different liquids. Can you advice what's best in your opinion please?

    Also what does the micro mesh pad need to be wet too? I haven't use these before.

    Cheers,

    Alkay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    For wet & dry nothing under 800 to start with otherwise the finish disappears really quick. For subsequent wet sanding suggest using 1200, 1500, 2000 and buy some micro mesh Pads to do the very final sanding that goes through 4000, 6000, 8000, then 12000 before you add the car polish. Here is a shot of the stuff. Had to buy finer grade wet & dry paper at an auto shop - Autobahn which is where I bought the polish too and reckon Supercheap should have the supplies too..
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    Hi wazkelly,

    Well the weather is still been a bit ordinary here but it is everywhere anyway haha.

    I have now got 9 coats of tru-oil on(thought I would do an extra one on top of your advice because I have been heavy handed when sanding).

    Do I wet and dry with 1200 and then apply more tru-oil and then move up to the next grit of 1500 once that is dry and so on with oil in between each grit. Sorry I'm just a bit confused about that. Above you said 6 to 8 coats of oil and sand back with 0000 steel wool or wet and dry. You also mentioned that sanding back may be done 2 or 3 times.

    Or

    Do you mean that I should sand back with 1200 wet and dry, apply a few more coats of oil repeating this process 2 or 3 times and then just work through to 1200 the last time and then 1500, 2000 and then the micro mesh of 4000, 6000, 8000, then 12000 before I add the car polish.

    Also I watched a video where they said to soak the wet and dry overnight. Do you do this or doesn't it matter?

    I just wanted to double check your advice before I go further. Don't mean to sound vague, I'm just not understanding the process step by step as I have never done this before. My last guitar neck with tru-oil was very very average but I will fix it when I know how.

    Cheers,

    Alkay.

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    the colour of that guitar is great, love it

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    Great advice from Waz. One other thing I have found is a drop of dishwashing detergent in the water helps to keep your sandpaper unclogged longer. Good Luck.

    cheers,
    Gav.
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