335ish 12 string Clone from closing down sale

[FredA]

@Tony: I've been asking myself the same question about the nut... I reckon I'm going to keep the plastic one on mine.
Worst case I'll swap it later if I find it's causing trouble.
I'm going to upgrade the pots though as once they're in I don't think I'll want to take them out and back in!

@Swanny: main differences I've noticed between the PBG model and the DIY are colour of hardware and fret markers. The PBG model has dots while this one has trapeze shaped markers.

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[tonyw]

@Tony: I've been asking myself the same question about the nut... I reckon I'm going to keep the plastic one on mine.
Worst case I'll swap it later if I find it's causing trouble.
I'm going to upgrade the pots though as once they're in I don't think I'll want to take them out and back in!

@Swanny: main differences I've noticed between the PBG model and the DIY are colour of hardware and fret markers. The PBG model has dots while this one has trapeze shaped markers.

Just minor changes in the ordering etc i think more than anything just to differentiate them, i want mine with dots someone else wants celtic crosses.

I am keeping the nut on for now as well, i will wire up the new pots during the week, most of the parts that came with the guitar wont be used on the build, but may come in handy on cigar boxes, and the strings for Nashville tuning one of my teles.

[tonyw]

Started to put together a wiring mock up, measure the guitar with baking paper than transferred it to a piece of cardboard, will make up a more accurate one on ply board later.




Pots matched set CTS 546k Volume pots
Tone pots CTS 555k will make for a little more treble and a Bourns 500k no load pot whci will take the pot out of the circuit for just the tone of the pickup. Not sure to go neck or bridge with the Bourns..
Caps 0.022 paper in oil Vit-Q
Switch WB Music Les Paul switch

[wazkelly]

The thing with a nut is, once you fret the guitar, the nut is out of the equation, but a well made nut also means less chance of cracking and breaking it.

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Tend to agree. I remember 30 odd years ago brass nuts and brass/bone combos were all the rage and for the most part they helped make open notes sound brighter which is not always the sound you are after. Whilst plastic ones seem to be frowned upon, if they don't buzz, not too high, see how it goes for a while before spending the extra time, effort and money on a bone replacement.

[dingobass]

Bone for tone.
And yes, even with fretted notes bone does make a difference as there are still vibrations happening at the nut that effect the overall tone of the guitar.

[tonyw]

Bone for tone.
And yes, even with fretted notes bone does make a difference as there are still vibrations happening at the nut that effect the overall tone of the guitar.

Not when its amplified, acoustically yes, plug in an you lose the lot

[dave.king1]

Bone for tone.
And yes, even with fretted notes bone does make a difference as there are still vibrations happening at the nut that effect the overall tone of the guitar.

Listen and watch a steel guitar player and a slide player.

The steel player damps the strings behind the steel and most often the slide player will be undamped, the harmonic difference is enormous.

JMTBW

[wokkaboy]

interesting discussion fellas. So many different sounds depending on style and feel of the player

[tonyw]

If your nut is made incorrectly, your guitar will reflect that.

If you personally believe brand x is better than brand Y? then more power to you, i will never endeavour to change anyones opinions.
If you hear something in your guitar after a mod, well thats what your paying for. Nuts like tone woods are subjective and i dont dwell on either, i just play my guitars, good strings, good pickups, good wiring and a good setup.

[DrNomis_44]

For me, a guitar is basically an acoustic/mechanical/electrical system made up of parts that contribute to the functioning of that system, if one or more of the parts aren't functioning at their best then it's going to have an impact on the overall functioning of the whole system, that goes back to the saying "A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link".


My two cents worth.