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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Mountain View Post
    All of the other vibrations/resonances may be noticable if you are the one playing the guitar as you can feel it in your hand and hear some of them depending on the situation but absolutely none of that translates to the signal being outputted by the electronics in a meaningful way, and if it does at all, the effect is negligible.
    Do you know of any research or science that demonstrates that? I would be interested to see it. I used to be a paid up member of the "its all in the pickups" club, but I've changed my mind in recent years.

    The trouble with this sort of thing is that doing real science to demonstrate what is really going on is hard, and takes lots of money and even more time and commitment, so its rarely done. Especially if people are afraid they might not like the results. Plus when people don't like the results they usually try and discredit the research rather than change their preconceptions. It would interest me to see an experimental instrument built and carefully recorded, with, say, wood chopped off body neck and headstock until finally nothing left. Make a little machine to pick the strings in exactly the same place and pressure each time, and then the waveforms compared. Would they be exactly the same or would there be differences? Would the differences be sufficient to be audible to the average member of public/average musician/musician with particularily precise hearing? I have no idea, but, here's the issue, I am not so very interested as to be planning to actually do the science.
    Build #1, failed solid body 6 string using neck from a scrapped acoustic (45+ odd years ago as a teenager!)
    Build #2, ugly parlour semi with scratch built body and ex Peavey neck
    Build #3, Appalachian Dulcimer from EMS kit
    Build #4, pre-owned PB ESB-4
    Build #5, Lockdown Mandolin
    Build #6, Sixty six body for Squier
    Build #7, Mini Midi Bass
    Build #8, Acousticish Telecasterish Guitar

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimC View Post
    Plus when people don't like the results they usually try and discredit the research rather than change their preconceptions.
    Just like the tin hat brigade with their denial regarding Covid 19.
    Championed by global visionaries like Donald Trump, Boris Johnson and Scott Morrison.

    Based upon pure selfishness and greed...and of course some folk simply like to argue for the sake of it.

    Denial of the years of 'science' research into modern production of guitars and amplifiers.

    The same folk that claim to hear differences in vintage instruments and new ones also tend to claim
    valve amps are superior to solid state ones.


    cheers, Mark.

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