I wonder if you could cut some more of your veneer to match the cavity cut-outs/routs (and line up with the flame), stain it the same as the top, then attach it to the back of a clear pickguard. If you could make that work, wow...
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I wonder if you could cut some more of your veneer to match the cavity cut-outs/routs (and line up with the flame), stain it the same as the top, then attach it to the back of a clear pickguard. If you could make that work, wow...
awesome idea Weirdy, as usual. Pabs could cut a clear pickguard.
Doubt the veneer would stick to the top of the pickguard
Now you've got me thinking! All you need to do is replicate the modified pickguard (in my concept pic) in clear, then like you say lay it over matched/stained veneer. How to attach though? I don't think gluing would work. You'd almost have to do a 3 ply, so you'd have acrylic backing/veneer/clear acrylic. Good stuff Weirdy!Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdBits
We'll have to get Pab's 2 cents worth and see what he reckons.
or another option Barge would be to maybe glue the veneer to some 3mm marine ply and cut your own pickguard with that, so the veneer is ontop of the pickguard, wouldn't need a 3 ply method as you thought of.
Would need quite a few clear coats on it to protect it from pick and abuse from your hand strumming it
I did think of just veneer as the top layer but, 1 - as you mentioned it wouldn't be very hard wearing and 2 - with the clear acrylic on top method you're getting the best of both worlds with the maple figure look as well as the shiny aesthetic that a pickguard gives.Quote:
Originally Posted by wokkaboy
I think Wokka has the right idea. Gluing veneer to acrylic is gonna be a bitch, not impossible but not fun. Bubbles in the glue would be the killer. Maybe if you had access to a vacuum pump.
I was thinking, not even glue the clear top layer to the veneer, just have it held in place by the screws. So that way you're just gluing the veneer to the bottom layer for some rigidity, the bottom layer wouldn't even necessarily even have to be acrylic.Quote:
Originally Posted by pablopepper
Yep, alright I can dig on that. I have some 1.5mm clear I can use to keep the thickness to a minimum.
It'll work ya reckon? Can you cut the two pieces together so the bevel matches up or...how does that work? (forgive my ignorance)Quote:
Originally Posted by pablopepper
I reckon that's possible Barge, see what Pablo says. The pickguard maybe about 4mm thick but no biggy
I put the bevel on after I cut it. Hmm, I will have a think about it.
Pabs could you cut the shape of the 2 x 1.5mm clear perspex sheets, drill the holes, then hold the 2 sheets together with the screws in the holes then put the bevel on ? not sure if the screw heads will be a problem
I think the screw heads would be an issue. Normally I would just stick them together with double sided tape, but 1.5mm is too brittle. Probably possible with strategically placed clamps and some messing about. I'll do some testing tomorrow.
I'll whip the pups/pots off the stock pickguard, make a cardboard cutout and try and come up with a cool shape.
yeah ok thought it would be a tough one Pabs
goodwork Barge cardboard cutout.
I got a cardboard cut out of me at work so people think I'm here haha
Hahaha classic!Quote:
Originally Posted by wokkaboy
it works Barge when I remember to turn my screensaver off. Got to get my cardboard cutout to move and talk more, staff are suss
I'd talk to Max about that one Wokks, he'd probably be able to make a Wokkaboy android to send off to work, then you could just stay home with the elves and build guitars.Quote:
Originally Posted by wokkaboy
awesome idea Barge, I'll see if Maxxy is up to making a Wokks android and I'd be more than happy to be at home full time with the elves building axes !
you two need help..... haha
What do you guys reckon about this for a pickguard shape?
Looks great!
cheers,
Gav.
nice shape Barge, looks like you have made it just big enough to cover the cavity and expose some flame grain on the lower horn.
Great work bro and page 19 this will be the longest thread if there was an award for it haha
@ Stan, I well know I need help mate ! haha
I'd love to pickguard to be smaller, but that's probably the best you can do.
I'm hearin' ya Fretty, unfortunately the shape of the cavity dictates what can/can't be done with the pickguard, as you rightly mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fretworn
What about keeping this shape but do it in clear and have the cavity visible? That way you're not hiding any of the flame and could maybe do something interesting with the wiring and the cavity itself? IDK.
Barge might as well get Pabs to cut a clear pickguard and see how it looks, can't hurt bro to see how it looks.
I'm super keen to one day build a clear acrylic body axe after I saw Dave Grohl play one in a video
Yeah that's it eh Wokks, it can't hurt to see how it looks. A nice deep burgundy inside the cavity would work well with the Nullabor Ochre I reckon, imagine flocking it, now that would be something different.Quote:
Originally Posted by wokkaboy
We had a BC Rich Warlock in clear acrylic hanging up at the local music store for a while and I thought it looked cheesy as hell, but might have just been because it was a Warlock:P
yeah Barge burgundy cavity would look fully sick for sure.
Could have been because it was a Warlock, that is one of DB's least favourite axes hahah. Then Iceman. Sure he took off 5 points on my IC GOTM entry just because it was an Iceman haha
You could always try lining the cavity with your veneer, it's thin enough that you should be able to steam it into shape for the sides...Quote:
Originally Posted by bargeloobs
However, leaving the cavity visible with a clear pickguard would make shielding it an issue.
Lining the cavities with veneer, hmmmm, now we're getting into unknown territory, I know you'd have no problems pulling something like this off but I'm not really sure if my abilities would extend that far. I'd really need to watch someone actually doing it to get to grips with the process, otherwise I would stuff it up, guaranteed.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdBits
As far as the wiring goes, what If I replaced everything with braided shield wire?
Yeah they're pretty bad the ol' Warlock, and I'd have to agree the Iceman isn't much better, although with a bit of re-shaping you could make an Iceman into something pretty cool I reckon. No amount of chopping would fix a Warlock hehe.Quote:
Originally Posted by wokkaboy
Are Ad's IC kits 3x3 or in-line?
page 20 Barge wow !
Yeah the IC-1 is an offset 3x3 headstock, it was a weird colour, started azure lagoon then added BMW to give it a glacier look.
Also I built a scratch build explorer/Iceman hybrid out of a lump of marri one piece crikey its heavy. Used an explorer neck
Think Weirdy has a good point no shielding on a clear pickguard might have a bit of hum
Those finishes look pretty sweet Wokks, can't say I've ever heard of "Marri" before, she sure looks like a heavy chunk!Quote:
Originally Posted by wokkaboy
Might just have to stick with Weirdy's original idea with the veneer pickguard then.
yeah Barge think I got it from a wood bin at the wood show, pretty sure it was marri, all I know its a heavy axe. It can have some pretty awesome grain man.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=m...w&ved=0CDwQsAQ
You can always try the clear pickguard and see what the hum is like. I reckon you could live with a bit of hum if it looks sick
Looks good especially with the exposed bottom hornQuote:
Originally Posted by bargeloobs
You might be able to answer this Wokks, would it make any difference if I replaced all the wiring to braided shield wire? Or is the problem more due to the strip of foil under the pickguard that the pots sit on? You'll have to excuse my ignorance, I know very little about wiring and electronics.Quote:
Originally Posted by wokkaboy
I reckon it should help Barge the braided wire for sure. The ST kits come with such a thin shielding layer below the pickguard and stock they don't have too much interference/hum.
I'm also far from a wiring guru too, Weirdy will chime in at some stage and give his advice, leave it to the expert !
You will have to run an earth wire from the volume to the 2 tone pots
Yeah it shows off a bit more of the grain eh! Just trying to figure out if it should be clear or maple now.Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewdosborne
Okay Barge. Call me weird and strange. I realize the two look nothing a like but for some reason in my head I've taken to calling this...Son of Blade Catcher.
I don't know why. Maybe i'm tired. :)
Hahaha, more like Dad of Bladecatcher:-)
Didn't you see Fretworn's post, he reckons this guitar is not made to play Mastodon riffs.