And they make a "Fender" cleat to boot! [emoji6] Love this bass so far great work!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1602bf04af.jpg
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And they make a "Fender" cleat to boot! [emoji6] Love this bass so far great work!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1602bf04af.jpg
Ha cool.
Cheers for the link VH2580. Lots of interesting doo-dads there.
Hey mate awesome build. If you have problems with the 2 main curves overhanging the end of the guitar and not enough room for the knob that Somon pointed out, why not embed parts of the tenticles into the guitar body by routing out and moulding the tenticles to fit. That would give the look that the tenticles are alive and trying to burrow into the wood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic Mountain
I was going to wait until I had it all working, but the two forward knobs will be controlled by a series of gears essentially relocating the part you turn to adjust them.
I've been pretty slack with this one over the last week, too much other stuff going on and too many problems to solve.
I'm probably going to admit defeat and use gold hardware for the bridge and tuners. There are some brass options, but I have to weigh up how much I want to invest in this build. I'm up for a new computer build as well at the moment to so the project funds are going to take a bit of a hit.
Yes, its one thing to think up the grand plan, sometimes the execution can be difficult. You can only do what is both practically achievable and economically sensible.
I love the sound of the geared T/V, that sounds well in keeping with the ethos of the build, I love where the tentacle direction went. I look forward to the end game!
Just remember theres many a specialised spray can that you can coat over your hardware with to make it look brass, copper burnished or otherwise, and a coat of gloss or satin clear to seal it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic Mountain
Enjoying watching such a unique build come to life Sonic, regardless of the pace.
Yeah I could do that. I've done plenty of props and models in my time. I guess I just want everything to be 'real' on this guitar and I'd particularly like the tentacles and hardware to tarnish in a similar fashion. But I think I'm going to get some gold hardware and see how it looks.Quote:
Originally Posted by nitroburner1000
This may end up back burnered again anyway as I'm expecting another kit in the not too distant future.
Paint over mystery metal may not hold on for too long either.
Maybe you could leave brass and gold parts out in the yard for a few weeks/months to tarnish up and then fit to the body to give it bit more aged and relic appearance.
Yeah that will be the plan, beer is a pretty good tarnishing agent as well.
Some of the parts I've been looking at are brass under the plating so I might do some inspecting - just as many of the cheap ones are that grey di-cast metal under the chrome though so its hard to know.
Sonic Would be fairly easy to make a simple brass bridgeplate (similar to what you have in picture) with some brass plate (couple of bucks) with the end bent up and couple of holes for strings and a couple for saddle bolts. Would tarnish the same as tentacles over time. Can get brass saddles everywhere or tarnish the cheap chrome for different offset colour.
Beer is too good to waste. Try using the alternative draino.....coca cola as it does a great job on copper and if mect long enough would do a proper job on any metal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic Mountain
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Gold is plated over chrome or nickel, so wear on gold parts is going to show up as silver. I've often had to use gold parts when I've wanted a silver finish, and just rubbed the gold off with metal polish and a cloth.
Obviously gold itself won't tarnish without deliberate wear, and chrome or nickel are going to take a long while to do so unless assisted by application of a strong salt solution.
You can use electrolysis to age/corrode components in a salt solution. 9v battery, component to be aged attached to the +ve terminal, nail attached to the -ve terminal, and immerse both in a non-metallic container with a salt solution in for a few seconds until the desired result is achieved.
You can now get thinners based all metal primers that hang on like a fly on bad meat and take any based coat over the top, but leaving them to tarnish would look more authentic, great idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by wazkelly
I don't know, have you tried the beer from Aldi? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by wazkelly
Yeah I've been thinking about that as I have a heap of 3mm brass plate still. My main concern was whether the bent plate would stand up to the string tension. But now you have me thinking about it, I could do that for the saddle adjustment and go a string through design so the plate isn't actually taking up the full load of the strings. Also means I can tie the base plate into the design a bit, so I'll have a good look at that next time I get it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by vh2580
Good point as most of their pre packaged stuff is cheap & nasty crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fretworn
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My taste buds must be synchronised with my wallet then as I was drinking that stuff in preference to the over-priced alternatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by wazkelly
(I'd given up brewing it myself by then).
I've since given up on alcohol altogether (buying it, that is).
cheers, Mark.
Yeah, I have cut back on a lot of discretionary spending and grog is no longer on the shopping list for the time being. Was not a big drinker so not really missing it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by king casey
Mind you, I had tried some of those cheapie shop a docket specials at BWS and Dan Murphy's with a few pleasant surprises plus many duds that were hard to swallow.
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Well I was, which is the reason for cutting it out altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by wazkelly
BTW Aldi wasn't always the cheapest. Coles sometimes sells an aptly titled 'Hammer n Tongs'.
An extended shift in a steel foundry was in order to get thirsty enough to drink the stuff.
cheers, Mark
Or had you reaching for hammer & tongs to beat yourself with for being so stupid?Quote:
Originally Posted by king casey
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nice thing about brass is that brazing only need a little gas torch. You could braze up a pretty crazy bridge/tail piece with gears and tentacles and other non functional apparatus.
Mid priced wine at Aldi is generally worth it. The cheap stuff is battery acid. But I've found that the $8 bottles at Aldi are usually the equivalent of a $12 bottle at Dan Murphys.
OK after lots of staring at it hoping it would work itself out i actually made some progress with the bridge today. Lots of measuring and mocking up in illustrator. I'm going to make it string through so that alleviates some of the tension on the bridge plate, I just have to worry about having somewhere to mount the saddle adjustment screws. So i'll cut two bits of plate the main plate with a slot in it and the smaller plate with a tang. Then once I've cut them out I will braze them together and hopefully I'll have my very own bridge design working. I'm going to order some brass saddles to go with.
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So I'm feeling pretty good about that end of the guitar. Next challenge will be some suitable tuners...........Then I need to make a jack plate, neck plate, control cavity cover and truss rod cover and hopefully that'll be the end of the brass work!
Personally, I'd just bend the end of the plate up rather than braze a separate bit on. I'd also go for larger screws to hold the bridge plate in place, if only because most commercial bridges have large locating screws.
Mmm, marvelouth work Thir, truly firtht clath.
thincerely,
Igor.
Spec Tentacular!
Bending 3mm thick plate nicely is more difficult than you might think, I’m not confident I can do it with the tools I have. Besides this lets me make it look cooler. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Barden
All the holes marked are pilot only. I’ll size them properly to the fasteners I end up using.
Actually looking again, I think the mounting holes could be move inboard a bit. You are right, the screw heads will be larger than I’ve allowed for.
Fine, I see your reasoning. Yes, I was thinking that you'd want screws with decent sized heads to spread the load.
Does making your own bridge lend itself to making the plate more shaped like a squid or octopus's body?
I believe Simon is suggesting you ‘reconsquider’ the shape of the plate.
I sea what you did there ;)
I did try to make it look like an octopus head in some earlier mock-ups, but it just looked odd. If I had planned a bit better with the tentacles it might have been doable. I also tried a kind of medusa/Cluthu looking thing but again couldn’t make it work with the space available and the functional bits it needs. I’m thinking that there will need to be some kind of decorative engraving on it, but I’ll get it working first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Barden
If nothing else it’s given you all a good punning workout. :)
They were suckered in.
:rolleyes:
Ok well first rough go at it/proof of concept is done and I only wished I'd had it laser cut about 50 times. That said the 'hand made' look is part of the appeal of doing this. I think its going to work, fair bit of tidying up to do obviously.
I'm going to re-manufacture the upright bit, It;'s a bit rough. The holes are not quite in the right spot (or straight!) to allow the string through to work, but its pretty close. This is interference fit at the moment and its pretty secure, but I'll still braze the final piece in.
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Take two, much better spacing, just needs a little bit of refinement and for the holes to be slightly lower. Some careful filing will take care of that.
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This is getting intensely awesome Sonic....
Looks great Sonic, with all those tentacles,it should be able to play itself.
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