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    What kind of finish is this? How would I achieve this?

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    Just been looking round at some of the Daemoness guitars, and my goodness are some of them incredible. This one in particular caught my eye.

    A few questions:

    1. What kind of body would I want for this? Quilted Maple?
    2. How would I achieve this burst? What techniques? What other colours would I need? Would bondi-blue dingo tone work?
    3. Is there a lacquer on this?
    4. As a first build, how difficult would this be?

    Also any other thoughts on the details of going about this are welcome, though you'll be sure to see more questions in the coming weeks regardless!

    This is for my 'dream in progress' design, happy to put it off after a bit more experience

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    Looks like a pretty thick poly over a water based stain. There's a ton of bursting tutorials on the net.. IT really depends on what tools you're using/spraying equipment/wipe on dyes etc.

    I'd suggest practising a burst on a scrap before attempting on the main axe mate.

    Not sure about bondi blue... I haven't seen an axe finished with it yet.

    You can pull anything off if you take enough time and be PATIENT with finishing.

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    Pardon my rookie-ness, but poly as in poly-resin?

    That's what I was hoping. I've looked at a couple of bursting tutorials and I like the idea of the wipe on dyes. If I can get a dingotone that works well I'd be stoked, but I'll look elsewhere if I have to.

    Definitely will do that, don't wanna wreck anything from lack of experience.

    Well if thats the case I'm happy to be patient!

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    Aye polyurethane gives it that glassy look

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    Check out Jarrods vidoes on spraying acrylics etc.. He Da Man!

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    Nickosaurus: I'll keep that in mind! Cheers! And you could spray that over a dingotone for example?

    dingobass: Awesome video. As someone who has never done any spraying + has no gear, would it be difficult to go about this? I automatically was leaning towards either wudtone or dingotone as they seemed much more straight forward, plus required almost no gear. Thoughts?

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    Hey Clebby,
    I have had great results using clear gloss acrylic directly from a spray can. Use Jarrod's method 100% but using cans sprayed outside. works a treat. I've been using White Knight gloss acrylic.

    cheers,
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    If I had to guess I would say this is blue dye into quilted maple, then with a tinted clear coat (eg. acrylic) to do the black burst, and then clear acrylic clear over the top. Getting the tinted burst would need spray equipment, but you could rub this burst on with water-based dyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gavinturner View Post
    If I had to guess I would say this is blue dye into quilted maple, then with a tinted clear coat (eg. acrylic) to do the black burst, and then clear acrylic clear over the top. Getting the tinted burst would need spray equipment, but you could rub this burst on with water-based dyes.

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    That's really good to know. I'd prefer not to fork out for spray equipment.

    I've seen a guy do what he refers to as a 'poor-mans-burst' which is done simply using dyes. Here is the link:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u49jCIRNnmk

    I was hoping to do something like this. Ignoring the first layer of black perhaps as I don't particularly want that effect, his method for getting the burst effect seems decent, what do you think of it?

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    Clebby you can use a stain called Dingotone (sold here at Pit Bull Guitars) and I hear it is a lot easier to get a good burst with it, so it is a possibility if you wish to try it out!

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