This is why I dislike Macs

[kimball492]

The best Mac made is what they call the cheese grater . You can get in it change pieces add pieces it's more like a Pc. But iMacs are dire. Why they can't put a hatch in back to Acess and change the hard disk drive I'll never know . So instead I have to remove the front glass bezel ,then remove Led screen removing five cables between screen and motherboard or as Apple call it the Logic board.
Then you can't put a standard Western digital hard drive in it has to be one to have a temperature probe connection. The lastest Mac Is a beautiful fast machine ,but trying to add anything to it is troublesome . You see it looks great on paper but soon as you start adding cables to it it looks nothing like the pictures hence the name a Trash can. I'll let you know how fitting the new Harddisk drive goes. P.s Apple have the looking good thing down to a T but functional and servicing is awful. The newer ones I believe are even harder to update or add things to.

[kells80aus]

I've been say it for year Kimbal, It's not how it looks It's how it works.
Ergo. Myer changed their IT system from Mainframe to HP Unix and a cost of hundreds of Millions of $$$.
The new system at reveal had barely half of the function their old Mainframe system had. One of the pre-requisites for the change was it looked better. It seems the users didn't like the old green screen sytems. The irony is that they had to build mountains of servers to replace the mainframe. Now, mainframes run zOS. or what we would loosly call Linux...
Why is a mainframe better, because the Unix servers do not have enough IO channels hence they have to use many many boxes, Although they are now migrating back onto LPars on Mainframes.

It all gets back to if it aint broke don't fix it.

With your mac Kibo, maybe you should have built a Intel box that runs iOS.

PK

[kimball492]

Hi Kells It's Funny I have two Macs two pcs both macs Ive had so many probs with . I have a mac compatible motherboard that's next project the Hackintosh build. I've built for other people but about time I did myself one .

[andrewdosborne]

I suppose it all depends on what you use them for. Why do I dislike Macs? My wife is always asking me to fix up Mac MS Office documents on my PC version as the Mac version is quite inadequate, especially for extra large complex spreadsheets. Even more annoying as you could buy 5x Windows based laptops (similar to mine) for the price of her Macbook pro!

[Fretworn]

The don't want you being able to maintain your iMac by yourself, then how would they get the $95 fee they charge you just for them to acknowledge that you have an Apple product when you need maintenance done. That's before they do anything and on top of the cost of the any repairs upgrades. I'm not convinced the "perceived" improvement in performance justifies the extravagant pricing.

[keloooe]

And that is why I still prefer PC over Mac.....

[dingobass]

Been using Crapple for years with absolutley no problems. Changed to a PC with Microsofton windoze 7 and nearly had a conniption because it was the biggest piece of crap I ever have seen.
It was slow as a snail on a frosty morning, even after putting in extra RAM. Turns out there were multiple things running in the background chewing up the RAM... Tried turning some of them off and the damned thing pooed its daks and refused to work.
Ended up ditching windoze and installed Ubuntu. Apart from Ubuntu not recognising my printer (which turned out to be one of Canons worst ones) I have had no dramas.
Now I do most of my stuff on the iThing and love it to bits... But I must say that the Minister for War and Finance recently got a Samsung tablet and that baby makes my iThing look like a dinosaur.
So, at the end of the day I guess it comes down to what works for you.
I find Crapple a whole lot easier to use than windoze, and others find windoze easier..

[wokkaboy]

whatever floats your boat hey DB !
we got a fair idea what sinks your boat !

[dingobass]

Thats it, Woks.. Its all about what works for the individual.... Unless its Nitro, poo oil, polyurethane........

[kells80aus]

I think some people totally missed the boat on what Kimbo is talking about. What he is saying is the upgrade path is almost non existent. With a PC you can swap memory, graphics cards, hard drives. motherbaords CPU's pretty much what ever you want. Try swapping out the CPU on your Apple CrMac. I've built plenty of PC's since the begining of the personal computing in the early 90's. I've built 8086's, 8286's, 8386 DX's, 8386's, 8486 DX's, 8586's, and their follow ons P4 pentiums, Dual cores, quad cores.

Yes you are all right about Windoze and all it's peripheral applications. BUT you don't need to use Windows. there are many flavours of Linux, Minux, Sose, Red Hat, Mandrake, Ubuntu...

In recent years Apple iOS has moved to a nice Kernel setup, as has Windows, and the Kernel architechure for all of these OS's has it's grounding in what??? LINUX(or UNIX if you can afford the license) .

Guys, stick to breaking heads off Gibbo's your out of your depth here...... LOL

PK