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Thread: Can I glue over Wudtone/enamel?

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    Hi guys,
    I have searched through the forums but not found a thread on this (though I may have missed it). I am at the stage of gluing in a set neck and there is some Wudtone and clear enamel on the surface that needs to be glued. Should I be sanding this back before applying the glue or doesn't it matter? All advice appreciated.
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    Lawry

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    Simple answer, yes......
    You would be using a wood glue to glue the neck on. If you want a proper adhesion, the glue needs to attach itself to bare wood. If it attempts to attach itself to enamel or Wudtone, at the first bit of string tension the adhesion between paint and Wudtone/enamel may hold, but the adhesion between paint and wood will not.
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    Hi Gavin,
    You're up early!
    Thanks for the response. Just a bit of clarification if I may. Is that 'Yes' to sanding or 'Yes' to glueing over the Wudtone? I am fairly certain you are saying that if I don't sand back the coatings then the joint will likely fail. Yeah?
    Cheers

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    He is saying to sand back to bare wood (no Wudtone or enamel).

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    Lawry - also - make sure you get yourself some good glue - none of that Aquadhere stuff - from memory someone found out the hard way what the limitations of that stuff are... If you can, pop off to a Carbatec or similar and pick up some Titebond or buy the PBG stuff - all much better. 8-)

    <edit> and funnily /strangely enough - cheaper! Go figure :? <ends edit>

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    Hmmm.
    Thought that may have been the case. That will make it interesting as far as getting the sides of the neck and body to contact each other for the glue to bind. The gap will be big enough so that there will be no wood/wood contact, yet too small to put a shim of something in there to keep things tight. Any suggestions?

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    The part that needs to bind is the flat part of the neck cavity and the underside of the neck.....sides are not an issue....Endorse Brendans suggestion to get some Titebond.
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    Thanks guys. I appreciate your help. When I bought the kit I also bought some PBG neck glue so now I feel much more comfortable in progressing to the next stage. I'm really impressed with the speed and willingness of people to jump in and help out here. It was only this morning that I started this thread and I already have a resolution.
    Cheers!

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    Hey - we're all beginners - PBG have only been around for just over a year! We're all learning together so it's a great time to be around!

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    Brendan. Thanks for the replies. I notice that your current build is an RC-1, which is what my build is. Probably the closest I will ever get to a Ricky-like guitar! I am just about to glue the neck into the body and am wondering how long it takes for the PBG glue to set/dry. Can you help?
    Cheers.

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