Tuning help

[petersgiles]

I've been noodling around with my guitar for about a month now and I've noticed that no matter how precisely I get the bottom E tuned, the G on the third fret sounds wrong (sharpish) the harmonic e on the 12th fret sounds fine and my tuner tells me its right.

Is there some tweak or poke that will get it sounding better.

Its the ES-1GT if that makes any difference.


here's a link to me playing the E and G http://snd.sc/102Ge3v

[keloooe]

Are you also tuning to the open G?????
The intonation might be off, I'll let the Grand Wizard of Intonation-ness (?????) sort you out!

EDIT: The nut slot might be a bit too high on the G, that could be what's messing you up???

[adam]

Petersgiles, relax, it's the nut. The nuts on our kits are a bit hit and miss I'm afraid. Part of the kit building process is to get the nut at the right height so you have good intonation up and down the neck.

Dingo Bass will tell you to go and buy a bone nut, but you can probably make do with the nut that came with the kit.

You need to remove the nut from the neck and sand/file it down a few mm until you get the right action/intonation. I can't describe exactly how to do this in just one post, but someone may be able to direct you to an appropriate tutorial... it's really something you need to dive in and try until you get the result you're after.

And, if you mess it up, no problem, you can get a replacement nut from any guitar store for a couple of bucks.

If you don;t feel like filing/sanding the existing nut, maybe you can buy a few different size (depth) nuts until you get the right one for your guitar.

Let us know how you go.

[dingobass]

have you checked this with your tuner?

If it is indeed a tad sharp, I would hazard a guess and say the Pest is right, the action at the nut is high.

Thing is, all the other notes should logically be sharp as well...

So, re check your intonation, and maybe lower the nut slot a touch.
You can do this by using an old E string as a nut file!... ( DB trick number 746)

[Gavin1393]

The nut is too high at the e string or it may 'slope' incorrectly. Here are some resources that may help.

Setting Nut action

http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Musi...nutaction.html

Setting intonation


http://pitbullguitars.com/?page_id=4...iewtopic&t=186

Petergiles, check the thread on the above link. This should sort out your issue...

[petersgiles]

Quote from adam on May 1, 2013, 18:39
Petersgiles, relax, it's the nut. The nuts on our kits are a bit hit and miss I'm afraid. Part of the kit building process is to get the nut at the right height so you have good intonation up and down the neck.

Dingo Bass will tell you to go and buy a bone nut, but you can probably make do with the nut that came with the kit.

You need to remove the nut from the neck and sand/file it down a few mm until you get the right action/intonation. I can't describe exactly how to do this in just one post, but someone may be able to direct you to an appropriate tutorial... it's really something you need to dive in and try until you get the result you're after.

And, if you mess it up, no problem, you can get a replacement nut from any guitar store for a couple of bucks.

If you don;t feel like filing/sanding the existing nut, maybe you can buy a few different size (depth) nuts until you get the right one for your guitar.

Let us know how you go.

editing my original post with a recording of the problem notes http://snd.sc/102Ge3v

yes some of the other notes are off too.

would love it if someone could find a tute (youtube) on tweaking the nut

[dingobass]

Hey Mate, it is really very simple.

Loosen off the offending string and slip it to one side.

Grab an old string and hang onto it like a piece of dental floss.

Attack the nut slot with this and you will find that it will cut it quite easily.

Give it a couple of strokes, re tune and test. Repeat until you have it right!

[adam]

If it's just one string that's out, then do what Dingo Bass says and take some meat out of the individual string channel (on the nut). If its all the strings, then you need to lower the nut. I found this video, after a very quick search, which seems to cover the basics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLvqT3JPMnk

[petersgiles]

Quote from dingobass on May 1, 2013, 18:52
Hey Mate, it is really very simple.

Loosen off the offending string and slip it to one side.

Grab an old string and hang onto it like a piece of dental floss.

Attack the nut slot with this and you will find that it will cut it quite easily.

Give it a couple of strokes, re tune and test. Repeat until you have it right!

Thanks

I'll try that but after reading this http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Musi...nutaction.html it looks like the whole thing is too high.
When I set it up initially I had to raise the bridge pretty high to get rid of rattles. I'm beginning to think that may related to this nut issue too.

[petersgiles]

Quote from Gavin1393 on May 1, 2013, 18:44
The nut is too high at the e string or it may 'slope' incorrectly. Here are some resources that may help.

Setting Nut action

http://www.frets.com/FretsPages/Musi...nutaction.html

Setting intonation


http://pitbullguitars.com/?page_id=4...iewtopic&t=186

Petergiles, check the thread on the above link. This should sort out your issue...

Here are some pictures (excuse my learner stickers)