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    I guess the dollar sign takes over and like everything else it gets made as cheap as possible and sold for as much as possible. Western world labour is very expensive . But this would make the consumer price tag cheaper being made in a sweat shop one would have thought. After what I have seen Nebulars have gone up to $30,000 lol...who wants one

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod View Post
    I guess the dollar sign takes over and like everything else it gets made as cheap as possible and sold for as much as possible. Western world labour is very expensive . But this would make the consumer price tag cheaper being made in a sweat shop one would have thought. After what I have seen Nebulars have gone up to $30,000 lol...who wants one

    That's what bugs me the most about our Free Enterprise system, companys try to reduce manufacturing costs in order to increase their profit-margin, unfortunately reducing manufacturing costs isn't without it's detriments, the cheaper you make something to build the less reliable it is, or the quality reduces, there is always some kind of tradeoff, it's funny how some old things keep on working when some new things break down within days of being bought.

    And then you see piles of those broken new thing ending up as landfill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNomis_44 View Post
    That's what bugs me the most about our Free Enterprise system, companys try to reduce manufacturing costs in order to increase their profit-margin, unfortunately reducing manufacturing costs isn't without it's detriments, the cheaper you make something to build the less reliable it is, or the quality reduces, there is always some kind of tradeoff, it's funny how some old things keep on working when some new things break down within days of being bought.

    And then you see piles of those broken new thing ending up as landfill.
    And not to mention deliberate obsolescence being a part of modern manufacturing......

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    haha DB a constant cause of friction at my place:
    "what are you modifying that for ?"

    "because if they made it right, I wouldnt have to..."

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    Hi everyone,


    Well...I guess I should apologize for having any doubts about my SG guitar being a fake Gibson, a few minutes ago just out of curiosity I undid all the scratchplate screws and lifted it up enough so that I could see the underside of the pickups, lo and behold what did I see.......the word "Epiphone" written on the underside of the pickups..... I think we have our ""Smoking Gun" here, so, you guys are right, what I have here is definitely a fake Gibson USA Angus Young SG which, I'm guessing, was most likely manufactured at the Epiphone factory in China.


    Since I don't really like the tone of the pickups (they're a bit too bassy compared to the ones on my Les Paul), I'm seriously considering changing them out for a couple of Entwistles.
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    I hate to say this, but they're not even legit epiphone pickups, those things come in most of the counterfeit guitars that come from the chinese fake factories. The epiphone factory had nothing to do with it, they can at least make a convincing copy.

    Oh well, its a modding platform now. I hope you can get the dead frets sorted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pablopepper View Post
    I hate to say this, but they're not even legit epiphone pickups, those things come in most of the counterfeit guitars that come from the chinese fake factories. The epiphone factory had nothing to do with it, they can at least make a convincing copy.

    Oh well, its a modding platform now. I hope you can get the dead frets sorted.

    I think the main thing is we know that it isn't a legit Gibson, and yes, I was going to use it as a mods platform anyway, I'm mostly going to be replacing all that needs replacing, the bridge, tuners, and nut (will be buying a couple of permanently lubricated Graphtech Tusq nuts from Stewmac), might also buy whatever tools I need to do the fret-levelling work on it, always wanted to get into a bit of diy guitar repairing anyway.


    I definitely like the idea of replacing the stock pickups with a couple of those Entwistles, might be the start of an interesting forum thread.

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    Epiphone once made great guitars themselves. But alas pab's is correct. The Chinese have no copy write laws what so ever. Lets start making expensive high quality copies of Chinese guitars lol.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod View Post
    Epiphone once made great guitars themselves. But alas pab's is correct. The Chinese have no copy write laws what so ever. Lets start making expensive high quality copies of Chinese guitars lol.....

    Actually, the Chinese Government were supposed to be cracking down on illegal guitar counterfeiting after being pressured by Gibson,Fender, and all the other major guitar manufacturers, there's supposed to be some kind of coalition monitoring what the Chinese Government are doing to address the issue.

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    I dont think you owe any apologies at all, Doc.

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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