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    Good luck and welcome along Alan, I promise you (however many reservations you have regarding building guitars) if you keep up a build diary and make good use of the people that inhabit this forum, you can't (and won't) go wrong.
    Looking forward to seeing your progress mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargeloobs View Post
    Good luck and welcome along Alan, I promise you (however many reservations you have regarding building guitars) if you keep up a build diary and make good use of the people that inhabit this forum, you can't (and won't) go wrong.
    Looking forward to seeing your progress mate.
    Thanks bargeloobs,

    Really appreciate your words of re-assurance and I admire the little quote - I keep thinking I have bitten off more than I can chew with trying to learn the guitar and then build one as well.

    The logical thing would be to learn the guitar properly and then progress to building one if I actually succeed in becoming a competent guitar player!!

    All you guys seem so genuinely nice and helpful too - which blows me away - hopefully I can achieve both and maybe one will compliment the other??

    I think I need to practice soldering too - somewhere along the line I think someone said there were 40 soldering joints in an SG1F guitar - that scares the hell out of me as well

    Ah well one step at a time I guess

    Thanks again bargeloobs

    Cheers,

    Alan

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    @abutton,

    If it's any consolation, I'm a newbie at building guitars too so you're not the only one, by the way, welcome to the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNomis_44 View Post
    @abutton,

    If it's any consolation, I'm a newbie at building guitars too so you're not the only one, by the way, welcome to the forum.
    Thanks DrNomis - it definitely helps to know there are others like me.

    I am a bit under confident at the best of times so this is really stretching my coping skills!

    I am having to force myself to even touch the guitar and still really haven't done anything to it..

    Thanks again,

    Alan

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    G'day Alan, worth a practice on the soldering. I used various tutorials see the Pit Bull Guitar site, "Wiring the Pick-ups" see
    http://www.pitbullguitars.com/videos/ plus some assistance from YouTube tutorials and my father who demoed the techniques on a Tele rebuild.

    The thing that caused me tremendous grief was getting the soldering iron 'tinned' correctly. At one point it was as if I had taken up production in small ball-bearings (you'll know what I mean if this happens!). Solved this problem by using a tip cleaner such as the below, after which it was all quite straightforward.

    http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=TS1512

    You'll find the soldering process a breeze with some practice and very rewarding once job done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewdosborne View Post
    G'day Alan, worth a practice on the soldering. I used various tutorials see the Pit Bull Guitar site, "Wiring the Pick-ups" see
    http://www.pitbullguitars.com/videos/ plus some assistance from YouTube tutorials and my father who demoed the techniques on a Tele rebuild.

    The thing that caused me tremendous grief was getting the soldering iron 'tinned' correctly. At one point it was as if I had taken up production in small ball-bearings (you'll know what I mean if this happens!). Solved this problem by using a tip cleaner such as the below, after which it was all quite straightforward.

    http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=TS1512

    You'll find the soldering process a breeze with some practice and very rewarding once job done!

    cheers
    Thanks Andrew,

    I will definitely take your advice.

    I am just trying to take one step at a time but all of this advice is sinking in and I will bebetter for it when I get to that stage.

    Haven't soldered anything since Form 3 Metal Work Class at High School so no doubt it will present a challenge!

    Thanks again for your encouragement and identifying little traps

    Alan

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    "Bite off more than you can chew, then chew like hell." Peter Brock.

    We were all beginners at one point.
    'As long as there's, you know, sex and drugs, I can do without the rock and roll.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablopepper View Post
    "Bite off more than you can chew, then chew like hell." Peter Brock.

    We were all beginners at one point.
    Thanks Pablo,

    I actually really love the guitar I am building and don't want to ruin it but I will try and chew like hell!

    Hopefully I don't choke.

    Cheers,

    Alan

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    Hey Alan,
    I think one of the darker red stains or the brown nullabor ochre would look good in a burst. At the time I did mine I used wudtone cherry flamenco (darker red) in the centre and Black magic woman on the back and sides and the outside burst, which wasn't really a dark black. With Dingotone you start with the stain coat so you will start the burst with these in both colours. Then you go over with the intensifying coat, then once happy with the depth and blend you put clear coats on.
    Not that important what wood to practice a burst on, even some pine would be ok to give you an idea how to blend the colours. That way you will see how the 2 colours you chose will look together.
    As the others have said have a practice solder, if you shield the control cavity that eliminates a few solder joins to each pot as they will all be earthed making contact with the copper shielding tape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wokkaboy View Post
    Hey Alan,
    I think one of the darker red stains or the brown nullabor ochre would look good in a burst. At the time I did mine I used wudtone cherry flamenco (darker red) in the centre and Black magic woman on the back and sides and the outside burst, which wasn't really a dark black. With Dingotone you start with the stain coat so you will start the burst with these in both colours. Then you go over with the intensifying coat, then once happy with the depth and blend you put clear coats on.
    Not that important what wood to practice a burst on, even some pine would be ok to give you an idea how to blend the colours. That way you will see how the 2 colours you chose will look together.
    As the others have said have a practice solder, if you shield the control cavity that eliminates a few solder joins to each pot as they will all be earthed making contact with the copper shielding tape.
    Thanks wokkaboy,

    Did you say that you put the dark stain on first, sand back and then put the lighter over the top?

    I was thinking that this was to bring out the lines crossing the grain direction.

    I think the burst is more the darker outside color blending into the lighter color into the middle of the face of the guitar.

    I am getting there - and as you say I will practice on some pine first (which I have got)

    Thanks again for your continued support and advice.

    I know I am better prepared because of your comments and suggestions

    Cheers,

    Alan

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