Pics Of My Latest Acquisition_2000 Gibson USA Angus Young SG

[kimball492]

Cool DrNomis if your happy. Might be worth letting your buddy know the situation. As he could be doing this unintentionally. And it will be him that ends up in serious trouble as he's the middleman. Goodluck I hope you can repair all the little niggles

[DrNomis_44]

I do want to say this though, thank you guys for expressing your concerns, much appreciated....cheers.

[wokkaboy]

main thing is you are happy Doc. Once you fit the new hardware and fix the high fret it should sound and play well.
Hope it doesn't have any dings/dents and is in good nick. The top and headstock looks in pretty good nick.
The forum is only making sure any members don't get a raw deal, that's why we were concerned mate !

[DrNomis_44]

main thing is you are happy Doc. Once you fit the new hardware and fix the high fret it should sound and play well.
Hope it doesn't have any dings/dents and is in good nick. The top and headstock looks in pretty good nick.
The forum is only making sure any members don't get a raw deal, that's why we were concerned mate !

There are some scratches on the back of the guitar's body but I'm fine with that, my Gibson USA Les Paul Studio has some dings in the body too but that doesn't bother me much either, no real major dings in the SG, the frets have very minimal wear on them if any and yeah the headstock is in pretty good nick, totally understood about the raw deal stuff, and again much appreciated.


Going back to dings in guitars, it's funny how Fender are manufacturing deliberately dinged-up guitars at expensive prices when you can ding-up a guitar yourself at a much lower cost, never really understood the logic of selling deliberately "Road-Worn" guitars at high prices when genuine natural wear/damage costs nothing.


One thing I did notice is that on the back of each of the original tuners on the SG guitar it says Gibson Deluxe in vertical capital letters.

[wokkaboy]

funny you say that about the big F Doc,
few months ago I attended the roadshow and it focused on custom shop and they have a heap of relic'd guitars in the range like Clapton, Beck, Hendrix, SRV and they were all dinged up and paint missing, cigarette burns, matched perfectly with the real thing. Sure these guitars would cost well north of $10-15k. I don't see the point.
Bassguy from the forum walked out after half an hour in disgust

[DrNomis_44]

funny you say that about the big F Doc,
few months ago I attended the roadshow and it focused on custom shop and they have a heap of relic'd guitars in the range like Clapton, Beck, Hendrix, SRV and they were all dinged up and paint missing, cigarette burns, matched perfectly with the real thing. Sure these guitars would cost well north of $10-15k. I don't see the point.
Bassguy from the forum walked out after half an hour in disgust

I don't blame him, I think this whole Relic'd Guitars thing is mostly market-driven, I seem to remember one of Jimi Hendrix's burnt Stratocasters going for some exorbitant price at an auction one time, and then you had the limited run of Fender's SRV No.1 Strat.

[dingobass]

It really peeves me off the way F are treating their customers with such contempt.
10-15k for a CNC'd chunk of junk with more CNC added wear and tear..
Pro tip: by a Guitar, gig with it for 20 years and then you will have a real relic...

I know you have your heart set on a new Strat but for the same money you could get a custom built one that will poo all over anything coming out of the F sweatshop these days..
I have had a close look at what they are producing and TBH with you, I have seen better results from some of our first time builders of PBG kits...

[wokkaboy]

fair comment DB, like the time the young sales rep at Kosmic Music said to you "check all those F and G guitars on the wall" and you said they are all carp !

[jarrod]

I really am struggling to work out where they justify that kind of price.
Also on very defensive note from one friend to another lets put a few facts on the line.
The timber is important to any instrument ........true.
The one I just can't get my head around is how what cuts that timber affects quality eg: bandsaw / router / wood plane / rasp / CNC router all equal too sanding the bas@$rd by hand. They are all tools that simply remove timber only some are faster than others thus considered production tools.
Now what I am also trying to get my head around is that yes the big "F" will be using extremely high productive tools to meet world demand.....true. So why the hell is the price so dam high?
The set up and especially the neck and bridge set up is the most important part that sets a guitar apart from the rest of the cheaper options. So how is a "F" relic set up different to any other "F" to warrant the difference from say a $2000 Standard to a $15000 relic.
Now before I wrote this post I stopped into a large music shop to have a close look at what the said company's quality was like now days. My USA Strat was purchased some 12 years ago and I love it to death. What I found was very pretty looking guitars on the wall , I took one down and closely inspected it. The finish is 2pk Urethane but I kind of expected that from a high production guitar now days. What really took me in was how thick the finish was and we all know that ain't great. The neck was simply stunning and felt perfect , the sad part for this $5000 axe was it suffered with quite bad fret buzz in several positions on the fret board of which kind of shocked me a little bit. At this point the shop assistant said some buzz is quite normal ........mmmm no it's not replied....The neck was a simple rock maple that looked to have a thin coat of 2pk all over in satin. The hardware does not even come close to the quality of say Babicz / Shaller / Gotoh. In all I walked out very disappointed in what a $5000 guitar from a well known manufacturer actually is.

[wokkaboy]

WOW Jrod the rep said "fret buzz is normal", sounds like a dodgy rep !