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    You will only need one small tub of Timbermate...
    I have a small tub that must be at least five years old now and I haven't used a quarter of it...
    As Tony said, a little bit goes a long way.

    When you go to use it, thin it down with water until you get a thick cream consistency then use a rubber squeegee or an old credit card to scrape it on.
    I apply it across the grain, working both directions to make sure it gets in.

    Let it cure over night and sand.

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    Hey DB, do you sand a bit and then apply timber mate and just put it on straight out of the box?

    Me thinks a light sand at least to knock of the usual machining marks and then grain fill but keen to hear you wisdom as I am sure what you have to say will save me heaps of time and effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    Hey DB, do you sand a bit and then apply timber mate and just put it on straight out of the box?

    Me thinks a light sand at least to knock of the usual machining marks and then grain fill but keen to hear you wisdom as I am sure what you have to say will save me heaps of time and effort.

    I checked out a video on youtube about applying Timbermate to wood, the guy in the video applied the Timbermate straight onto the wood after thinning it down to the consistency of a thickshake with water, next the guy let the Timbermate dry and then sanded it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    Hey DB, do you sand a bit and then apply timber mate and just put it on straight out of the box?

    Me thinks a light sand at least to knock of the usual machining marks and then grain fill but keen to hear you wisdom as I am sure what you have to say will save me heaps of time and effort.
    Yep, wot Fred sed

    Sand out the worst of the machining marks, say up to 220 then apply the Timbermate.

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dingobass View Post
    Yep, wot Fred sed

    Sand out the worst of the machining marks, say up to 220 then apply the Timbermate.

    No worries, I'm just making absolutely sure that I know what to do once I've got what I need to start work on finishing the body and neck, tomorrow I'll go get the Ebony Timbermate from the Big Green Shed and a few other things I'll need, but the shopping for the PBG Luthier supplies will come first.

    @ Dingobass How are things coming along with the Dingotone MkII?, looking forward to doing the beta testing.



    Update:


    Seeing as I had successfully completed the mock build, I decided to go ahead and drill the holes for the mounting screws for the tuners in the headstock, I noticed that other forum members have experienced screw breakages but I got lucky and didn't have any breakages, I didn't have any candlewax that I could use as a lubricant on the screws but I did have some pieces of bathroom soap, and as I've heard that you can use soap as a lubricant on the screws I thought I would give it a try, it seemed to work well, you just scrape the screw on the soap and get some in the threads, then you use a screwdriver as usual, the screw should go smoothly into the hole with no binding that would cause breakages, I used a 1.5mm Titanium-coated drill bit to drill the holes.


    Reason for drilling the holes?, I wanted to check the alignment of the neck relative to the bridge, seems to look okay to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dingobass View Post
    You will only need one small tub of Timbermate...
    I have a small tub that must be at least five years old now and I haven't used a quarter of it...
    As Tony said, a little bit goes a long way.

    When you go to use it, thin it down with water until you get a thick cream consistency then use a rubber squeegee or an old credit card to scrape it on.
    I apply it across the grain, working both directions to make sure it gets in.

    Let it cure over night and sand.


    No worries and cheers mate so I'll add a squeegee to my shopping list then, will start work on finishing the body on Tuesday this week, or maybe later on this week once I get some time, I'll have to buy some sandpaper from the Big Green Shed while I'm at it so I can get started since I'm going to be doing an order for some PBG Luthier supplies on Tuesday, I'm assuming I'll need to buy sandpaper with grits from something like 180 to 400, will post some pics of the progress with the Ebony Timbermate.

    Hopefully my local Bunnings shop has Ebony Timbermate in stock otherwise I might have to order some which may take some time, looks like my build may get off to a slow start and my build diary will be an epic one...lol.

    I guess as the saying goes..."Slow and steady wins the race", I'm sure ShazzRandom is going to be finished with her build long before me, but that's totally okay, means I'll most likely end up with good results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNomis_44 View Post
    No worries and cheers mate so I'll add a squeegee to my shopping list then, will start work on finishing the body on Tuesday this week, or maybe later on this week once I get some time, I'll have to buy some sandpaper from the Big Green Shed while I'm at it so I can get started since I'm going to be doing an order for some PBG Luthier supplies on Tuesday, I'm assuming I'll need to buy sandpaper with grits from something like 180 to 400, will post some pics of the progress with the Ebony Timbermate.

    Hopefully my local Bunnings shop has Ebony Timbermate in stock otherwise I might have to order some which may take some time, looks like my build may get off to a slow start and my build diary will be an epic one...lol.

    I guess as the saying goes..."Slow and steady wins the race", I'm sure ShazzRandom is going to be finished with her build long before me, but that's totally okay, means I'll most likely end up with good results.
    I'm trying to get it done haha definitely slow and steady! Not sure when I'll have time to wire again :/ I won't set the neck until we move as it will be easier to move the guitar in the box it came in, in its 2 main pieces

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShazzRandom View Post
    I'm trying to get it done haha definitely slow and steady! Not sure when I'll have time to wire again :/ I won't set the neck until we move as it will be easier to move the guitar in the box it came in, in its 2 main pieces


    Good luck with the move mate, hope it all goes well, since moving to Darwin from Kununurra, I had to do over ten moves to a new place to live till I ended up where I live now, not long after I moved in I wanted to move out to a new place again due to all the trouble with noise from my neighbors, one of them lived in a flat directly above mine and they would decide to have a very loud domestic argument every night at very late hours just when I was trying to get some sleep so I'd have the energy to go to uni in the morning, not much fun at all for me.

    Been seriously thinking of moving to Cairns lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNomis_44 View Post
    Good luck with the move mate, hope it all goes well, since moving to Darwin from Kununurra, I had to do over ten moves to a new place to live till I ended up where I live now, not long after I moved in I wanted to move out to a new place again due to all the trouble with noise from my neighbors, one of them lived in a flat directly above mine and they would decide to have a very loud domestic argument every night at very late hours just when I was trying to get some sleep so I'd have the energy to go to uni in the morning, not much fun at all for me.

    Been seriously thinking of moving to Cairns lately.
    Gee. Sorry for the late reply! Been off with the fairies the last couple of weeks!
    My husband and I have built this house we're waiting on, and as musicians have had internal sound proofing installed in every internal wall! So hopefully don't annoy the neighbours!
    Hopefully you don't have to move any time soon! And hopefully your car comes back

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    Hey guys, don't stress this too much. You've described the right process: sand, mix timbermate with water, spread on the guitar, wait, sand.
    I've put a few photos of the process on my STA1M build diary: http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ll=1#post87787
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