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    Quote Originally Posted by wokkaboy View Post
    yeah Dr Nomis, either Gavmeister or DB posted a pic of the headless bridge from a Steinberger and couldn't believe it said Overlord of music stamped ontop.
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    I love locking tuners cause I do a lot of bending but being on disability I can't afford Sperzel's. In fact that's how I discovered Guitar Fetish.
    I've yet to have any real problems with any of the tuner sets I've bought from them.
    Backlash is such a pain in the butt. Especially on stage when you really don't wanna spend more than about 10 seconds tuning your guitar.

    Breaking the high E. I don't know how many times that has happened. I dd find that for me using locking tuners that lock from behind tend to break them less than the ones you use a coin to lock from the top. I always over tightened the top locking ones and since my high E is a .009 it's very easy to break.

    Providing there were no other issues to cause tuning lose once I switched to locking I could go all night without having to tune.

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    G'day Rob,

    I don't use locking tuners but being of a vintage not far removed from yourself and just coming back to playing I have been using 9s for the last few months on my 3 main 6 stringers because my fingers were struggling with bending but have just gone back up to 10s which I thought I'd never do.

    Getting a much fuller sound and a bit more snap and clarity, new strings obviously help but the set I took off were only about 2 months old but were played for around an hour most days.

    They also seem to be pretty stable from a tuning perspective.

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    I use 42-09 gauge strings on my other guitars, and 46-10 gauge strings on my LP Studio, I found that I can make the transition from 42-09 gauge to 46-10 gauge fairly easily cause the 24 3/4 inch scale length of my LP Studio means that the string tension is about the same so it's relatively easy to adapt.


    Is it just my imagination or does the 14:1 gear ratio of the Grover Kluson Deluxe tuners, on my LP Studio, seem suit the 46-10 gauge strings better?, I don't know.

    I've noticed that tuners with an 18:1 Gear Ratio seem to suit 42-09 gauge strings and tuners with a 14:1 Gear ratio seem to suit 46-10 gauge strings, you wouldn't think that the gear ratio of a tuner would suit particular string gauges but that's something I've observed.


    I know that the higher the gear ratio of the tuner the finer/more accurate the tuning is, so therefore tuners like the Steinberger Gearless Tuners with the supposedly 40:1 ratio should be very accurate in terms of tuning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave.king1 View Post
    G'day Rob,

    I don't use locking tuners but being of a vintage not far removed from yourself and just coming back to playing I have been using 9s for the last few months on my 3 main 6 stringers because my fingers were struggling with bending but have just gone back up to 10s which I thought I'd never do.

    Getting a much fuller sound and a bit more snap and clarity, new strings obviously help but the set I took off were only about 2 months old but were played for around an hour most days.

    They also seem to be pretty stable from a tuning perspective.
    Hiya dave!!
    I was thinking of going to 10's when I still was playing on stage cause I tended to be heavy handed when I play and was breaking high "E" strings too often. Now that I am retired from live performing I'm not as heavy handed. Not breaking strings now.
    Also if I didn't bend so much I probably wouldn't need lockers.
    Not sure why but my Tele seems to stay in tune even with my bending.
    It was difficult for me to find the right strings. As the only guitarist in my bands I needed something good for the lead work but also the rhythm. For some reason I gravitated towards 42-09.
    I do know I won't use any brand other than D'Addario.

    Sidenote: One really nice about not playing live. I don't have to change my strings as often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNomis_44 View Post
    I use 42-09 gauge strings on my other guitars, and 46-10 gauge strings on my LP Studio, I found that I can make the transition from 42-09 gauge to 46-10 gauge fairly easily cause the 24 3/4 inch scale length of my LP Studio means that the string tension is about the same so it's relatively easy to adapt.
    I know for me the big problem with trying to go back and forth is that I have very short stubby fingers and I could feel a major difference between the sizes.
    I has had an accident years ago that damaged my left hand causing some loss of feeling in the finger so I have to press harder. That hurts after awhile with the bigger sizes.

    I've been looking at those Steinberger Gearless Tuners but I just can't get passed the naked look on the headstocks using them. But I may wind up switching to them cause tuning for me is much more important on recordings. If you're a bit out of tune on stage the only people who will notice is other guitarists. Recorded though, everyone will notice it. And I refuse to use autotune for anything at all.

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    Go the 'Bergers, you wont be disappointed :-)

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dingobass View Post
    Go the 'Bergers, you wont be disappointed :-)
    Pretty sure I'll wind up with them. The look is starting to grow on me. Since my first PB build will be that hollow Tele which will look a bit odd in itself the Bergers will probably look great on it.

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    Yeah, definitely give those Steinberger Gearless Tuners a go, some people think that they will add a bit of weight to a guitar's headstock, but from my experiences with them the individual tuners seem to weigh about the same, if not a bit less, than standard tuners, they do take a bit of getting used to from both a practical and aesthetic point of view, note that because the strings attach to the Gearless Tuners a little differently to standard tuners, the string tends to go off at a slight angle rather than going straight over the nut, this might cause some string-friction issues on Stratocaster style guitars which normally have the strings going straight over the nut.

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