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    Just wondering, since I'm going for a simple finish on the body of my SH-1 build (decided I'm going with an opaque Metallic Blue Lacquer spray paint), is there anything I need to do prior to spray-painting a Basswood body?, I have a can of Feast Watson wood sealer which I've tested with the type of spray paint I want to use, it doesn't appear to react with it, can any of you advise on how many coats of spray paint and Clear Lacquer I'll need to apply?, I do understand that I'll probably need to do some sanding.

    Incidentally, is the Feast Watson wood sealer going to be suitable for what I want to use it for?, or do I need to use something better?


    Also, I'm going to upgrade the pickup selector switch to a 5-way type which I'll order from Stewmac.com
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    Hey DrN, that's a bummer about the Irish kit! One of the great things about Pit Bull is that if such drastic flaws occurred in one their kits, Adam'd straight on to it (like hair on a gorilla! ) to ensure customer satisfaction (and we love's ya for it, Adam!).

    If you're going for solid colour the basic process is ... sand, seal, sand, primer/undercoat, sand, paint, polish ... with lots more sanding in between ... a lot of the forumites (including myself) have had great success with a wonderful Aussie product called Timbermate - its filler, a sealer, its ... bloody useful (and even available at the Big Green shed!)

    On guitar parts/tools suppliers ... you'll probably find (like I did) if you can get the part in Australia it'll be cheaper than going US when you take into account the Int'l postage AND the nose-diving Aussie dollar but having said that, quite often there's no option but to go o/s ... in which case the US is your best bet (the European suppliers have truly exorbitant prices on their stock - 2-3 times the price for the same thing in the US).

    Anyway, here's a small list of just some of the suppliers that I (and some of the other forumites) have found worthy of doing business with:

    REALPARTS (Aust.) - a really great range of guitar parts and Aussie-based - they sell the RealTone (US) brand of parts ... good prices, great service, quick delivery ... always my first option before going to the US
    http://www.realparts.com.au/

    AUSTRALIAN LUTHIER SUPPLIES - another great Aussie supplier. They don't have quite the range of bits that RealParts do but they do stock some of the more obscure bits and pieces and especially tools (where I picked up my "binding-channel-cutter-thingamajiggy") ... prices can sometimes be just a tad more expensive than RealParts but they're just the same on service, delivery ... and great tech advice - these guys are the builders of the beautiful Hancock guitars (real jazz masterpieces).
    http://www.luthierssupplies.com.au/

    SYDNEY GUITAR SETUPS - legendary Aussie company amongst the pro-guitarists (both local and o/s - check out his client list! its who's who of guitar players!) for his tech services (the only PLEK machine in S.E. Asia) and an incomparable range of OEM (genuine) parts for most manufacturers (except Rickenbacker - don't get him started in Rickenbacker! ) ... his website doesn't show ANY of the range of parts but if its ever been made and used on ANY manufacturer's guitars he's probably got it (his shop is a nightmare and lot of fun ... stock and customers guitars EVEYRWHERE! ) ... also has shops in L.A. and Nashville!
    http://www.sydneyguitarsetups.com/

    STEWMAC - the most awesomest range of both guitar bits and especially luthier tools and supplies ... but a bit more on the pricier side (than a lot of others) and being US-based postage to Oz can add quite a bit to the end price (especially when the Aussie dollar's taking a dive against the green-back)
    http://www.stewmac.com/

    GFS (Guitar Fetish) - really great range of Non-brand name (but good quality) parts as well as their own brand (especially their pickups and electronic wiring mods) and certainly one of the cheaper suppliers but again US-based (altho' their postage always seems to come in cheaper than a lot of other US suppliers) ... I'll use these guys if I cant the bit I need in Australia
    http://www.guitarfetish.com/

    ALLPARTS - directly comparable to GFS (US) and RealParts (Aust.) for range of stock ... I'll also use these guys if an Aussie-alternative isn't available.
    http://www.allparts.com/


    Wait a minute ... that sounds like Rock and/or Roll!

    SG-1 ... "Little Miss" finished in Flamenco Cherry Wudtone
    TL-1A ... "Slugger" finished in Antique White Nitro
    EX-1 ... "Metal God" finished in nickel-plate (work in progress)
    ST-1A ... "Scrapper" stained and finished in linseed oil ... and with the "secret weapon"
    GR-1SF ... "Rocker-billy" (just arrived, work in progress)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott J. View Post
    Hey DrN, that's a bummer about the Irish kit! One of the great things about Pit Bull is that if such drastic flaws occurred in one their kits, Adam'd straight on to it (like hair on a gorilla! ) to ensure customer satisfaction (and we love's ya for it, Adam!).

    If you're going for solid colour the basic process is ... sand, seal, sand, primer/undercoat, sand, paint, polish ... with lots more sanding in between ... a lot of the forumites (including myself) have had great success with a wonderful Aussie product called Timbermate - its filler, a sealer, its ... bloody useful (and even available at the Big Green shed!)

    On guitar parts/tools suppliers ... you'll probably find (like I did) if you can get the part in Australia it'll be cheaper than going US when you take into account the Int'l postage AND the nose-diving Aussie dollar but having said that, quite often there's no option but to go o/s ... in which case the US is your best bet (the European suppliers have truly exorbitant prices on their stock - 2-3 times the price for the same thing in the US).

    Anyway, here's a small list of just some of the suppliers that I (and some of the other forumites) have found worthy of doing business with:

    REALPARTS (Aust.) - a really great range of guitar parts and Aussie-based - they sell the RealTone (US) brand of parts ... good prices, great service, quick delivery ... always my first option before going to the US
    http://www.realparts.com.au/

    AUSTRALIAN LUTHIER SUPPLIES - another great Aussie supplier. They don't have quite the range of bits that RealParts do but they do stock some of the more obscure bits and pieces and especially tools (where I picked up my "binding-channel-cutter-thingamajiggy") ... prices can sometimes be just a tad more expensive than RealParts but they're just the same on service, delivery ... and great tech advice - these guys are the builders of the beautiful Hancock guitars (real jazz masterpieces).
    http://www.luthierssupplies.com.au/

    SYDNEY GUITAR SETUPS - legendary Aussie company amongst the pro-guitarists (both local and o/s - check out his client list! its who's who of guitar players!) for his tech services (the only PLEK machine in S.E. Asia) and an incomparable range of OEM (genuine) parts for most manufacturers (except Rickenbacker - don't get him started in Rickenbacker! ) ... his website doesn't show ANY of the range of parts but if its ever been made and used on ANY manufacturer's guitars he's probably got it (his shop is a nightmare and lot of fun ... stock and customers guitars EVEYRWHERE! ) ... also has shops in L.A. and Nashville!
    http://www.sydneyguitarsetups.com/

    STEWMAC - the most awesomest range of both guitar bits and especially luthier tools and supplies ... but a bit more on the pricier side (than a lot of others) and being US-based postage to Oz can add quite a bit to the end price (especially when the Aussie dollar's taking a dive against the green-back)
    http://www.stewmac.com/

    GFS (Guitar Fetish) - really great range of Non-brand name (but good quality) parts as well as their own brand (especially their pickups and electronic wiring mods) and certainly one of the cheaper suppliers but again US-based (altho' their postage always seems to come in cheaper than a lot of other US suppliers) ... I'll use these guys if I cant the bit I need in Australia
    http://www.guitarfetish.com/

    ALLPARTS - directly comparable to GFS (US) and RealParts (Aust.) for range of stock ... I'll also use these guys if an Aussie-alternative isn't available.
    http://www.allparts.com/


    Hey cheers for that Scott J, much appreciated mate.

    I'll keep all that in mind when it comes to finishing the SH-1 build, I might see if my local Bunnings store stocks Timbermate next week, been hearing a lot about that PLEK guitar setup machine, might check them out and see if they have a website up and running, I'm on Stewmac's mailing list and they send me a copy of their latest catalogue when it's available, will definitely have to check out those other companies you mentioned too.

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    Here's the website for the PLEK company ...

    http://www.plek.com/

    ... it's a pretty bloody amazing machine, I've been fortunate to have Anthony (Sydney Guitar Setups) step me through its workings and watch it in operation. If you're looking for absolute precision (think hundredths of a mm) in every facet of your guitars set-up then it's the way to go - the type of precision that only the German's would create a machine to achieve!

    But be warned - having a guitar PLEK-ed is a damn expensive venture! (starting at the several hundred's of dollars! ), but then the machine itself costs several hundred of thousands of dollars , so I guess its pretty relative!


    Wait a minute ... that sounds like Rock and/or Roll!

    SG-1 ... "Little Miss" finished in Flamenco Cherry Wudtone
    TL-1A ... "Slugger" finished in Antique White Nitro
    EX-1 ... "Metal God" finished in nickel-plate (work in progress)
    ST-1A ... "Scrapper" stained and finished in linseed oil ... and with the "secret weapon"
    GR-1SF ... "Rocker-billy" (just arrived, work in progress)

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    Plek machines can also do a lot of damage to fingerboards. I know of a few luthiers here in Sydney and in Melbourne who get a fair bit of business fixing up fingerboards and frets after the Plek machine has chewed them up.
    Current:
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    First Act ME276 (resurrected curb-side find)
    ES-5V
    Scratchie lapsteel
    Custom ST-1 12 String
    JBA-4
    TL-1TB
    Scratch Lapsteel
    Meinl DIY Cajon
    Cigar Box lap steel

    Wishing:
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    Open D/Standard Double 6 twin neck

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    Just been checking out all the different finishes available from Pittbull Guitars after watching some of the tutorial videos, they make the whole finishing process look a lot easier than I thought it was, just been considering going with the Bondi Blue Dingotone finishing kit, or I could go with one of the Wudtone options.

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    Sorry that there hasn't been any build updates, I'm going to have to defer buying my SH-1 kit till maybe some time next month since I need to put the money towards some other things, I found out that I need to buy some replacement tuners for the replacement tuners on my Gibson USA Les Paul Studio guitar, a few the original Kluson Deluxe tuners had significant backlash making tuning difficult, so I tried replacing them with a set of Grover Rotomatics (non-locking), I though that had fixed things but now they need replacing as there are three of them with backlash, been having a real rough time with sets of tuners lately, pretty much all the sets of tuners I've bough have had backlash even when brand new, anyway, once I have bought my SH-1 kit I'll definitely keep you all posted.

    Oh, I also need to buy a new digital camera as my current one isn't working too well.

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    A Gibson Les Paul with tuning problems, what a shock! (sarcasm alert)
    Current:
    GTH-1

    Completed:
    AST-1FB
    First Act ME276 (resurrected curb-side find)
    ES-5V
    Scratchie lapsteel
    Custom ST-1 12 String
    JBA-4
    TL-1TB
    Scratch Lapsteel
    Meinl DIY Cajon
    Cigar Box lap steel

    Wishing:
    Baritone
    Open D/Standard Double 6 twin neck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fretworn View Post
    A Gibson Les Paul with tuning problems, what a shock! (sarcasm alert)
    Hey, don't worry Fretworn & Dr.N ... Gibson are currently taking steps to rectify this long standing "tuning" problem with their guitars ... all new Gibson models from this year onwards will have Gibson's "auto-tune" units mounted on the headstocks!

    (let's just bump that sarcasm alert up a notch! )

    ... and you thought you were having problems before!


    Wait a minute ... that sounds like Rock and/or Roll!

    SG-1 ... "Little Miss" finished in Flamenco Cherry Wudtone
    TL-1A ... "Slugger" finished in Antique White Nitro
    EX-1 ... "Metal God" finished in nickel-plate (work in progress)
    ST-1A ... "Scrapper" stained and finished in linseed oil ... and with the "secret weapon"
    GR-1SF ... "Rocker-billy" (just arrived, work in progress)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott J. View Post
    Hey, don't worry Fretworn & Dr.N ... Gibson are currently taking steps to rectify this long standing "tuning" problem with their guitars ... all new Gibson models from this year onwards will have Gibson's "auto-tune" units mounted on the headstocks!

    (let's just bump that sarcasm alert up a notch! )

    ... and you thought you were having problems before!

    I did some internet research and as it turns out, I'm not the only LP Studio owner that's experiencing tuning problems, I found an online company (realparts.com.au) that stock the tuners I need, it's only going to cost me $72.00 for a set of 6, but I'm going to buy two sets just in case I get a few bad tuners.


    Gibson guitars aren't the only ones experiencing tuning problems, Fender guitars are too, so I don't think it has anything to do with the Gibson headstock, I reckon it's a case of a lapse in quality control, PRS guitars aren't without tuning problems either.

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