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    Now... those dots on the fretboard...
    How would I get rid of them?
    I am not sure of they are decals or if they are actually dots glued to the fretboard..
    In an ideal scenario I would love to get rid of them for a sort of fretless unlined look..
    any tips?
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    My guess is: drill them out, fill the gap with something. in which case that razor blade on the 12th fret could stay.
    But if they are decals? just sand sand sand with a radius block? How do I know if they are decals?
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    Removing/replacing fretboard dots*

    Once they’re out if you have a plug cutter and some thin rosewood (like a headstock face/head board etc) you could make some ‘fill’ dots to glue in:


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    Some judicious grain matching and/or dark stain then seal the board with CA glue for fretless joy and you probably won’t even see them*.

    (* some risk involved)
    Scott.

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    Thanks WeirdBits! I love the * !
    great tips.. I am sourcing all the required bits and pieces!
    I am having fun just thinking about this step

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    resuming operations on this build!

    sanded, stained, spray painted, tru oiled

    photos of a dry fit after the tru oil

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    ground wire run from bridge to cavity

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    happy times so far all going smooth.

    I've got some time this week, I m planning to finish this build in the next few days.

    I have decided that this will be a bass VI fretless instead of a baritone fretless. The strings should be here soon!

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    You have something really unique there. What is the scale on it? Curious how you plan to string it. Are you giving it a low B? Or are you planning to have the upper strings to get some Baritone out of it?

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    the scale is 30" ish

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    After a fair bit of research, based on what's available and at a reasonable price, I have bought Stringjoy's 24-90 strings, specific for bass VI

    the current plan is to tune it all in fourths: E A D G C F

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    Wiring done!

    These are the bits that came with the kit (plus a bunch of assorted wiring and 5-6cm of soldering wire)

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    and this is the wiring diagram:
    the B500k linear pot was used for the volume, the A500k logarithmic pot for the tone

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    I like using log pots on the tone control. It will be interesting to see if you like having the linear pot on the volume. That's less common but there are people who really like that. Particularly for swells.

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    strung up the bass VI, first set up seems going well, plugged in into my bass amp, and it sounds very.... interesting I guess?! definitely a unique sound, that I am gradually getting used to it.
    it plays the same notes as a bass, but it feels a lot closer to a guitar, the weight, the neck...
    it sounds more present and more mid range than a bass, more upfront in some ways, but a bit thinner than a bass as well. the high notes are very interesting to have, entering the electric guitar range and musical possibilities...

    it's an unusual scale length for me, I am used to playing 34" bass, this bass VI is 30", the strings are very close to each other (again compared to a traditional bass) and there are 6 of them!! this instrument would probably feel immediately familiar to a guitar player, it's taking me some time to adjust although I do play guitar occasionally.

    The string tension is pretty good, however I might go up a gauge very likely very soon, I see that Stringjoy has a slightly bigger set, I just need a little bit more tension, especially on the low notes E A D.

    Tuning in fourths is definitely the way to go (EADGCF from low to high), it makes so much sense! Moving up and down the neck, diagonally, whatever, its just so much more intuitive that EADGBE. in the standard tuning I always feel that the B strings "breaks" the patterns, for chords, scales, arpeggios... in fourths I can just transfer any chord shape, and scale, anything to anywhere on the neck, I really like it.

    After playing for a few hours, I wanted to do a first mod though... I needed to add a fret!
    this instrument has 22 frets.. the highest note I have on the fretboard is a Eb... no way!!! I could reach 4 full octaves if I had an additional fret to press onto (or lets say if I could extend the fretboard a few mm), giving me a E note, that will make this a full 4 octaves instrument...

    Quick trip to the garage then, I have cut out a piece of timber....
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    slotted it in...
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    . sand sand refine until if fits pretty good, I wouldn't say perfectly.. it still need a bit of work where it meets the fretboard, but the height and radius are spot on, they are the important ones

    the "additional fret" just rests on top of the pick up plastic bit, no glue nothing.. and it works! 4 octaves!!!
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    I've recorded a quick video with a little improv and some first tests...
    the instrument still needs a few tweaks but it's mostly all there

    https://youtu.be/-vMT9wjuVfY?si=HqZUnwkgj89Nn80g

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    This thing is fun to play!

    it's recorded with my phone and the volume might be a bit low, headphones on or crank it up in your stereo!
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