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    Trevor Quick question, after looking at lots of Guitars I really like the Butterscotch Blonde. I am not sure where to source what I hope would be a good Butterscotch Blonde stain. I have a white pickgaurd but happy to puchase a new Black one to better match the look. Any recommendations ? Hope this sort of question is not too trivial! Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by John W View Post
    Trevor Quick question, after looking at lots of Guitars I really like the Butterscotch Blonde. I am not sure where to source what I hope would be a good Butterscotch Blonde stain. I have a white pickgaurd but happy to puchase a new Black one to better match the look. Any recommendations ? Hope this sort of question is not too trivial! Cheers
    Actually, I'm not sure! I know there is a Dingotone Butterscotch - but I don't know how successful it has been. Some of the Dingotones have issues with drying!

    Hopefully others will pitch in with some suggestions.

    Also, it would pay to start a build diary to keep track of your progress.



    PS; Feast Watson do a stain and varnish liming white in Natural Buttercup! Not sure how this would go !
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    I am guessing you'll be putting it on a light colored wood? I cannot say that I have tried this yet, but I have a flamenco guitar with a spruce top and back and sides that are (I think) poplar, which is mostly light, except for green streaks. I am pretty sure this guitar was finished with shellac, and is a lovely butterscotch.

    I have in mind doing a finish that is a bit darker than butterscotch on a paulownia body (which is a little darker than maple or basswood...more like oak). My plan was to finish with garnet shellac (the darkest kind), however, it's probably not as dark as I thought it would be...but maybe more like what you are interested in?

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    I have used platina shellac (aka super blonde) on necks to get them a little darker. It doesn't give them a lot of color, but is nicer than natural, IMO, and also has the advantage of giving the grain, and especially curls or birdseyes, some chatoyance. There was one spot on a maple neck that I got from PB that looked like a tiny knot when the neck was unfinished. When I finished with platina shellac it "became" this lustrous birdseye.

    Although not quite as dark as I think I wanted, I am still planing to use the shellac to darken my bass body. Any alcohol based dye will work with shellac, which also may be useful for your purposes, particularly if you'd like it to be a bit more amber or brown.

    I always have some platina shellac around to use a lot as a sanding sealer, and to seal between coats of finishes that I am not 100% sure are compatible. So, another reason I plan to use it is to to sanding seal, color and prep for clear coat in one step. It's worked well on maple. Hoping it will work as well on a more open grained wood.

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    I have not used Dingotone products. And I won't use them. I have been using this site since 2016, and the unhappy stories about using dingotone far outweigh the happy stories.

    Meanwhile...

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor Davies View Post
    PS; Feast Watson do a stain and varnish liming white in Natural Buttercup! Not sure how this would go !
    There are people here who have gotten pretty great results with Feast Watson finishes. Might be worth a peruse through the "scratchy Tele's" link in TD's signature for examples ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by John W View Post
    Trevor Quick question, after looking at lots of Guitars I really like the Butterscotch Blonde. I am not sure where to source what I hope would be a good Butterscotch Blonde stain. I have a white pickgaurd but happy to puchase a new Black one to better match the look. Any recommendations ? Hope this sort of question is not too trivial! Cheers
    Just for clarity, when you say Butterscotch blonde, are you just after a light brown stain, or the semi opaque (milky look!) type of finish?
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    I always thought Butterscotch blonde was a thin coat of yellow Lacquer paint sprayed on a alder body in such a way that the paint is so thin that you can see the grain through. I thought it is not a hand stained colour guitar. Pls correct me if I am wrong

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    Good luck with your build

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    Oops! I focused on "stain" rather than "milky"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drashkum View Post
    I always thought Butterscotch blonde was a thin coat of yellow Lacquer paint sprayed on a alder body in such a way that the paint is so thin that you can see the grain through. I thought it is not a hand stained colour guitar. Pls correct me if I am wrong

    https://amzn.eu/d/ar5X7KY

    Good luck with your build

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    Same type of paint as found on the original 1950's Fender guitars
    Hmmm, now I see why this paint is so popular..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drashkum View Post
    I always thought Butterscotch blonde was a thin coat of yellow Lacquer paint sprayed on a alder body in such a way that the paint is so thin that you can see the grain through. I thought it is not a hand stained colour guitar. Pls correct me if I am wrong

    https://amzn.eu/d/ar5X7KY

    Good luck with your build

    Drashkum

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    Sounds good to me. I have no idea.
    PitBull Builds: FVB-4, LP-1SS, FBM-1, AG-2, TB-4, SSCM-1, TLA-1,TL-1TB, STA-1HT, DSCM-1 Truckster, ST-1, STA-1, MBM-1, MBM custom, GHR-1 (Resonator).

    Scratch Builds: Pine Explorer, Axe Bass, Mr Scary, Scratchy Tele's.

    The little voices in my head keep telling me "build more guitars"

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    Thanks Has given me some mor ideas will have a closer look at Feast Watson stains

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