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    Just need to mention that most acrylic sprays are water-based these days, rather than using an organic solvent. It’s why acrylic is far more eco-friendly than say nitro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Barden View Post
    Just need to mention that most acrylic sprays are water-based these days, rather than using an organic solvent. It’s why acrylic is far more eco-friendly than say nitro.
    I haven't used rattle can acrylic clear in a few years so don't really have a good handle on what's out there now. It's good to hear they're moving in an eco-friendly direction though. However, a quick search for it in Australia seems we're well behind the curve*.

    *edit: I am referring to rattle can clear. Water based lacquers are available for spraying, but seems to be more so in bulk 4-20L than 250-500ml like I use in solvent based stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCreed View Post
    I haven't used rattle can acrylic clear in a few years so don't really have a good handle on what's out there now. It's good to hear they're moving in an eco-friendly direction though. However, a quick search for it in Australia seems we're well behind the curve*.

    *edit: I am referring to rattle can clear. Water based lacquers are available for spraying, but seems to be more so in bulk 4-20L than 250-500ml like I use in solvent based stuff.
    Water based poly urethane is more common. Just wish someone would come out with an automotive water based clear.

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    First, apologies to a_novice for the hijack...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbit View Post
    Water based poly urethane is more common. Just wish someone would come out with an automotive water based clear.
    Rabbit, I've seen water based clear "lacquer" for guitars and woodworking. How would that differ from an automotive lacquer?
    I'm just thinking vintage guitars were painted with auto lacquers, so wouldn't it work other way around?
    FTR, I've never done any car painting and my only experience with lacquers has been on guitars.

    Also, I've just been reading a bit about waterbourne automotive paints, and it does seem like the technology just isn't quite there yet. Even PPG, whom I think kind of came up with it first (???) points out its shortcomings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCreed View Post
    First, apologies to a_novice for the hijack...



    Rabbit, I've seen water based clear "lacquer" for guitars and woodworking. How would that differ from an automotive lacquer?
    I'm just thinking vintage guitars were painted with auto lacquers, so wouldn't it work other way around?
    FTR, I've never done any car painting and my only experience with lacquers has been on guitars.

    Also, I've just been reading a bit about waterbourne automotive paints, and it does seem like the technology just isn't quite there yet. Even PPG, whom I think kind of came up with it first (???) points out its shortcomings.
    With regards to clears, it comes down to durability. Auto grade clears are the highest in durability, then marine finishes a step below that. For a guitar , that level of durability isn't realy needed, but it's nice to have. As for base coats, in the auto industry, both factory and refinishing industries are increasingly making use of waterbourne technology.... your information may be a bit behind the times. The technology has improved dramatically, but it requires re-training to apply them properly.

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