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    The middle ones I have appear to be cut. The are not uniform for one thing. I'll check the hole spacing, but I can say for sure that the tabs are not uniform. They look like they began life as three-a-side and were just cut down to (almost) fit. But why would anyone do that if you can buy them to fit? Very strange.

    I may be forced to grind or file, as King suggested.

    Only thing that appears certain is that McCreed makes excellent color choices ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fender3x View Post
    They look like they began life as three-a-side and were just cut down to (almost) fit. But why would anyone do that if you can buy them to fit? Very strange.
    Certainly not a 3+3 set as the tuner positions relative to the centre would be reversed on three of them (plus you'd have four 'outer' tuners with one half screw hole and and one full screw hole).

    Maybe they do make them as in your example and then trim them down to size. I'd have thought they'd have had three types of stamped outer enclosures, but maybe making them all the same and then chopping is cheaper. Whatever they do, they don't do it very accurately as I find they often don't seem to be the same size, or at least the post is in a slightly different position relative to the surround which effectively makes them a bit wonky. Sometimes you can move the four middle ones around to find a better fit, but it might be that some filing/grinding is the easiest option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Barden View Post
    Certainly not a 3+3 set as the tuner positions relative to the centre would be reversed on three of them (plus you'd have four 'outer' tuners with one half screw hole and and one full screw hole).

    Maybe they do make them as in your example and then trim them down to size. I'd have thought they'd have had three types of stamped outer enclosures, but maybe making them all the same and then chopping is cheaper. Whatever they do, they don't do it very accurately as I find they often don't seem to be the same size, or at least the post is in a slightly different position relative to the surround which effectively makes them a bit wonky. Sometimes you can move the four middle ones around to find a better fit, but it might be that some filing/grinding is the easiest option.
    It's funny how long things take me to complete. I have now got the neck sanded down to 800. Will do the finish sanding a polishing...and then it will be time to mount the tuners. Which brings me back to their oddness...

    Gotoh's model name for the 3x3's is SD90. Their name for the 6-inlines is SD91.

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    ...Mine look just like the SD90s and not like the SD91s.

    BUT, they are definitely all lefties and they look like they have been trimmed on one or both sides by a monkey with a set of big clippers. NOT machine stamped or cut on at least one side, that is. So I have to assume that someone trimmed these to get them to fit on a left handed fender, decided not to use them, and then sold them on eBay to some schmuck.

    So here's the schmuck's question: I think I should be able to file this down to where they will fit properly, but I am wondering if the difference in the top (seen in the pic as the bottom) will make any difference? When I dry fit them the hole in the post is lower than the nut, so that should not be a problem. I can't think of any reason these won't work, but wanted to at least ask before I commit.

    The reasons for why these tuners are as they are will most likely remain a mystery. The only thing I am sure of is that somebody (not Gotoh) modded these guys. Thanks!
    Last edited by fender3x; 30-07-2020 at 09:25 AM.

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