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    Yes, but don't forget to put a bit of heatshrink tube over the join.
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    So for both wires (ground and normal) it’s ok to just solder a normal bit of wire to each to make up the length?
    You can do it that way, but if I were doing it, I would use a longer piece of single conductor shielded wire (just like the red one you have - but longer). In a hollow body, the less loose wires you have inside, the better. Also you gain the shielding affect of the braided portion (also acting as your ground).
    However, if you only have single core wire at your disposal, you can do it as you suggested.

    If you do use two separate wires, be sure and do this:

    - insulate the solder joins (as Jim said). Preferably with heat shrink tubing not tape.

    - after you've soldered the extensions on and insulated the joins, twist the 2 wires into a helix formation and shrink some tubing over the helix before you solder to the output jack terminals. Just be sure to leave enough "untwisted" that you can freely solder the ends.

    Doing the second step will keep things tidy and give the benefit of acting like a shielded coaxial cable. (like "twisted pair" mic & instrument cables)

    Good luck and happy soldering!

    Edit: Just wanted to add, the twist in the 2 wires doesn't need to super tight, just kind of a moderate helix, if that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCreed View Post
    You can do it that way, but if I were doing it, I would use a longer piece of single conductor shielded wire (just like the red one you have - but longer). In a hollow body, the less loose wires you have inside, the better. Also you gain the shielding affect of the braided portion (also acting as your ground).
    However, if you only have single core wire at your disposal, you can do it as you suggested.

    If you do use two separate wires, be sure and do this:

    - insulate the solder joins (as Jim said). Preferably with heat shrink tubing not tape.

    - after you've soldered the extensions on and insulated the joins, twist the 2 wires into a helix formation and shrink some tubing over the helix before you solder to the output jack terminals. Just be sure to leave enough "untwisted" that you can freely solder the ends.

    Doing the second step will keep things tidy and give the benefit of acting like a shielded coaxial cable. (like "twisted pair" mic & instrument cables)

    Good luck and happy soldering!

    Edit: Just wanted to add, the twist in the 2 wires doesn't need to super tight, just kind of a moderate helix, if that makes sense.
    Do you mean replace the whole wire with a longer one?? And how would I get the ground wire too? Or does that come in certain wires already?

    Sorry I’ve never done any electrics before so have no idea about this!

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    Do you mean replace the whole wire with a longer one??
    Yes

    And how would I get the ground wire too? Or does that come in certain wires already?
    The red wire that came with the kit (the one that's too short) is known as "single core shielded wire" (or cable).
    It has the inner insulated wire (the "single core") next there is the braided wire (the "shield") and last is the outer insulation (the red pvc).

    The single core is your positive (or "hot") lead that goes from the middle terminal of the 3-way switch to the "tip" terminal of the output jack.
    The braided shield is also your negative (or "ground") which goes from the big lug (opposite the 3 positive terminals) of the 3-way switch to the "sleeve" terminal of the output jack.

    NOTE: The photo shows a 3 terminal jack. Just ignore the middle one and look at the wire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCreed View Post
    Yes



    The red wire that came with the kit (the one that's too short) is known as "single core shielded wire" (or cable).
    It has the inner insulated wire (the "single core") next there is the braided wire (the "shield") and last is the outer insulation (the red pvc).

    The single core is your positive (or "hot") lead that goes from the middle terminal of the 3-way switch to the "tip" terminal of the output jack.
    The braided shield is also your negative (or "ground") which goes from the big lug (opposite the 3 positive terminals) of the 3-way switch to the "sleeve" terminal of the output jack.

    NOTE: The photo shows a 3 terminal jack. Just ignore the middle one and look at the wire.
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    Amazing thanks for that idiot proof explanation (it was much needed)!!!! Now to find some single core shielded cable!!

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    Hi chaps, I hope you’re all staying healthy!

    So I’m in wiring hell!!! I’ve basically rewired the whole thing and can’t get any output from the bridge pickup...I’ve followed the wiring diagram and can’t spot any mistakes but still nothing!

    And weirdly when I select the middle position (both pickups) I get no output either?? The neck works fine when in the rhythm position but nothing in middle or treble positions...PLEASE HELP!!!!

    Ahahahahaha!

    Thanks again!

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    Oh my god call me Leo Fender I think I fix it...hahahaha!

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    Just re-soldered it and it worked!

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    Hmmm chaps I’ve hit quite a sizeable stumbling block...

    I’ve got my bushings in for the bridge and the stop bar fits fine BUT the actual bridge bit doesn’t fit. Once you screw the poles in they’re too close together!

    Obviously when I fitted it at the beginning with foam around the poles it must have been pinching in a bit and I didn’t notice!

    Am I screwed now or is there a fix that doesn’t involve trying the get the bushings out as they were a really tight fir and I’m not sure they’ll come back out!

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