The PBG B46.....Behemoth bass and guitar kit.

[WeirdBits]

As a follow-on from the diagrams, there's one other option I should mention: the Free-way 6-position toggle switch. it's an expensive switch, but may be easier to obtain than the double-neck switch.

The interesting thing is... by using this switch to do some creative switching of the pickup negatives/grounds and how they connect it should be possible to have 3 positions for the guitar pickups (bridge/both/neck) and 3 positions for the bass pickups and you won't need a second switch at all (although there wouldn't be a 'mute' position). So, you could plug the upper switch hole if you're going for a solid colour. Anyway, just another option.

[ozzbike]

Scott,

Thank you so much for the brain fodder mate.

Some interesting options here. I do honestly thank you for the work required to produce these great diagrams.

I do like the options with the four pole switch.....the one you listed at the end before the freeway switch post.

I shall lean towards that one I think.

I do note that you include a bass bridge earth wire. The piccies of the body of the guitar do not show a drilled hole for this wire. But I do note that at the bottom of the bass bridge pickup route there appears to be a drilled hole. I have a couple of longer drill bits and think I could squeeze one through.

Saving for better upgrades.....as the kits are listed to arrive back in stock in May.

I have tracked down some wood, tile, soapstone, leather gouges.....I think these will help with fitting the Tone Rider Jazz Bass pickups.

Plan:-

Name:- "True Blue.".....obviously to be stained blue. I have some plans to fade a stylised aussie flag into the stain on the front and the back of the guitar body. Amber to Gold stained headstock faces.....blue on the back of the necks......maybe two tones....with a darker tint at the body joints and the neck scarf joints.

U-Beaut water based stains.....over sanded wood filled with baltic timber mate....or ebony to spike the grain.....then wet sanded and finished through the grades of paper in Feast Watson wipe on gloss polyurethane. (Maybe a couple of grain popping Tru-Oil coats before the poly.)

1. Tone Rider Jazz Bass pickups.......bridge pickup bought on 26/02/17....thanks hobastard
2. Tone Rider Rocksong humbucker guitar pickups.
3. CTS or Gotoh pots of the right ratings.
4. Switchcraft input jack.
5. Tusq or Graphite nuts for both necks.
6. Orange Drop caps of the correcting ratings.
7. Treble bleed circuits over all volume pots.....if they fit weirdy's wondergrams.

Maybe:-

1. Upgraded locking tuners for both headstocks.
2. Better roller style tune-o-matic bridge and wraparound stop-tail piece on the guitar body.....I actually don't mind the style of Bass bridge supplied.

Saving now....not wilting and buying an interim kit.....like the thunderbird....or the hollow body kits.....no no....behaving myself.

[ozzbike]

Oh, can I not use this toggle switch?

http://www.realparts.com.au/electron...le-switch.html

[WeirdBits]

Ideally, yes, but no. The typical kit switch cavity is not much larger than the stock 3-way switch itself (and that's what the cavities look like in the BG-46 photos), so a right-angle switch is unlikely to fit without some heavy-duty enlargement of the cavity (and probably a deep thread nut too).

To give you an idea, here are the three switches: Box-style 4-pole double-neck switch, stock PBG 3-way and Switchcraft right-angle (smallest to largest).


And the undersides:


The right-angle switch above is a standard right-angle 3-way, as I didn't have a double-necker on hand. The actual switch is fatter/wider in the lug block/body.

Mod'ing the switch cavity would also mean you'd need a custom cover for it, but if you want to use a right-angle I can draw up a layout for you.

[ozzbike]

Ah, now I see. Thank you.

I shall order the four pole 12 connector switch then. 😀

[wazkelly]

Hi Ozzie, both bridges look ok, in fact the Bass one is a ripper and best stock PBG one I've seen whilst the guitar one is just a stock standard tuneomatic and should work fine. Only cheap hardware upgrade I would do is to replace that 'football' shaped jack plate with one of these recessed ones..... http://www.realparts.com.au/hardware...us-thread.html

Standard Bass tuners are the same as on my EX-5 and work ok. I have only upgraded the tuners on my EX-1 with the Grover lockers but happy enough with the generics on the other couple of 6 stringer builds. Expensive upgrades that would cost about $100 or more for maybe 20% gain in efficiency perhaps. If they were the open backed Fender style Bass tuners I would encourage upgrading as they are quite soft and don't feel strong enough to handle the load and reckon it wouldn't take much to strip a gear on one of them.

Real Parts have Alpha pots from $3 each vs $7.30 for CTS representing a savings of $17.20 as all these upgrades can add up quite considerably.

Cheers Waz

[ozzbike]

The land lays as such:-

The kit.......

https://www.pitbullguitars.com/shop/...uitarbass-kit/

To be ordered when they return to stock....or...maybe during April to jump the queue.

Extras from PBG:-

Tone Rider J Bass pickups and Tone Rider Rocksong pickups......bridge bass pickup sourced 26 feb...thanks hobastard.
Grover Chrome 6 inline Mini Locking Rotomatics Upgrade Tuning machines.
PBG treble bleed circuits x 2
Switchcraft 1/4" mono output jack

Total including the kit:- $697-80

GuitarElectronics.Com Item:-

3-Way 4-Pole On/On/On Toggle Switch $26-95 (USD) plus shipping........DONE $59.50 26/02/17.

RealParts.Com.Au items:-.........Done ordered this morning.... $168.60....28/02/17.

Gotoh tailpiece and Bridge- Epiphone upgrade - Chrome
Sprague 0.047 mfd Orange Drop Caps - Pack of 3
Sprague 0.022 mfd Orange Drop Caps - Pack of 3
Gotoh 500K Audio Taper Pots x 4
Graph Tech Tusq XL slotted nut for Epiphone - Black
Graphite Slotted nut for Bass - Black
Flat Chrome Knob set of 2 x 2
Electrosocket Jack Plate - Chrome - US Thread

Total:- $168-60.

I have the dyes, sandpaper, timber mate and polyurethane.

So Total:- $866-40 (Plus the US costs....so maybe $60-00)

Grand Total:- $926-40.

Wow......thinking I will do this....but I shall start sneaking up on it from next payday.....US Order and the Real Parts stuff first....then save the nearly $700.00 for PBG for an April order. Maybe order the bits other than the kit from PBG as the money is around as well.....cause if I don't do the kit the things can be used in other guitars.

This is going to be fun.....better than wine...shoes...chocolate....retail therapy for blokes.

Oh, To be wired using this wonder from weirdBits...thanks scott.

[Hobastard]

I have a Tonerider jbass bridge pickup for sale, never fitted to anything, still in the box. Bought it from Pitbull for a project that didn't go ahead.

Looking for $40 inc postage.
Will accept PayPal.

Save you a couple of bucks, every little bit helps.

[WeirdBits]

An epic project, good luck.

[ozzbike]

I have a Tonerider jbass bridge pickup for sale, never fitted to anything, still in the box. Bought it from Pitbull for a project that didn't go ahead.

Looking for $40 inc postage.
Will accept PayPal.

Save you a couple of bucks, every little bit helps.

Done deal hobastard.....I will take that one from your hands.

My paypal e-mail address for an invoice I can pay is ozzbike@hotmail.com

Thank You sir, all charity, donations will be happily swooped upon.