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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    Ain't it great to have someone like Scott to come and rescue everyone like this. Man, you are a genius.
    Yep, agreed!!! If I can pull this wiring diagram off, that will be a huge confidence booster!
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    Hey Weirdy, guess what??!! I'm finally getting to the scary part!
    I have the Pups installed, and I think I may have hit a slight snag.
    The neck pups wires are a little on the short side, so how your diagram is shown, I won't have enough wire to get to left side of the selector switch. If I reverse the switch, there should be enough slack to wire it up comfortably, however will this now mean the selector switch will be back to front?


    To try and make myself clearer, if I follow your diagram, the circuit board would be closer to the Trem.
    If I flip it, the silver cover would be closer to the trem.
    Thanks in advance!
    Last edited by Zandit75; 28-11-2016 at 05:11 PM.
    Acoustics:
    1995 Maton EM725C - Solid 'A' Spruce Top, QLD Walnut B&S, AP5 Pickup
    2015 Ibanez AEL108MD-NT - Laminated Spruce top, Laminated Mahogany B&S, Fishman Sonicore Pickup


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    hey Zandit yes if you reverse the wires on the switch the reverse pickups will operate. Just join more wire to the shorter wire and if you have heatshrink use that to cover the join so it doesn't cause any shorts
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    Quote Originally Posted by wokkaboy View Post
    hey Zandit yes if you reverse the wires on the switch the reverse pickups will operate. Just join more wire to the shorter wire and if you have heatshrink use that to cover the join so it doesn't cause any shorts
    OK, I can probably do that.
    What about the unused connection points on the switch? The way Weirdy supplied the drawing, there are 3 points on the left side of the switch that don't have anything connected to them.
    Are they usable?
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    The left side of the switch is the reverse of the right side, as it is in the image above. So, where the neck pup is connected to the outer most lug on the right side it could also be connected to the inner most lug on the left side for the same result (leave the other pup xonnections as drawn). If the neck pup will stretch that far then that's the easiest option.

    Otherwise, as Wokks said, just add some extension wires to the pup's leads, solder and insulate the joins.
    Scott.

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    Awesome guys, thanks again!
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    1995 Maton EM725C - Solid 'A' Spruce Top, QLD Walnut B&S, AP5 Pickup
    2015 Ibanez AEL108MD-NT - Laminated Spruce top, Laminated Mahogany B&S, Fishman Sonicore Pickup


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    Quote Originally Posted by WeirdBits View Post
    I think this should work, hopefully it's clear enough for you.

    Attachment 14539

    The dark grey wires are the ground connections and the light grey are the bare wires on the pickups.

    As you are mixing three different pickups from three different manufacturers there's a real chance that there could be some phase issues. Basically, they'll either all be in phase or one will be out compared to the others. You'll hear it if one is out of phase, when combined with another pup the sound will be thin and nasally, very distinctive. If it happens, chances are it'll be the Hot Stack and if that's the case its wiring will need to be reversed while maintaining the coil order for the hum cancelling when split. So, just for the Hot Stack, green would go to the red connections, red to the green connections, black to white connection and white to black connection (I think), bare stays the same. But, wire it as per the diagram at first and hopefully we'll get lucky and you won't need to change anything. If it's one the other pups that's out of phase you'll just need to swap their hot and ground (you don't have chrome/metal covers so you can do that in this case).

    Let me know if you have any questions/problems.
    Hey Weirdy, can you please provide some guidance?
    Position 1 - Neck Pup works fine.
    Position 2 - Neck works fine, middle will only work if the 3-way is in the downwards position.
    Position 3 - Middle works only in the downwards position
    Position 4 - Middle works only in the downwards position, Nothing from the Humbucker
    Position 5 - Humbucker works fine.

    I'm done for the night, but any starting points would be appreciated for trouble shooting.
    Thanks in advance!
    Acoustics:
    1995 Maton EM725C - Solid 'A' Spruce Top, QLD Walnut B&S, AP5 Pickup
    2015 Ibanez AEL108MD-NT - Laminated Spruce top, Laminated Mahogany B&S, Fishman Sonicore Pickup


    Electrics:
    Pitbull LP-1S - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=5745
    Carsen Superstrat Rebuild - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=6284

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    Sounds like the wires may be going to the wrong lugs on the 3 way mini switch and some close up photos might help identify the culprits.

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    Yep, it's a mini-toggle issue, either wrong connections or failing contacts (unlikely). My diagram used the colours on the pup's supplied diagram you posted, so the colours should be correct. Need to see some close-up pics of your mini-switch wiring to see what's what.
    Scott.

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    DPDT on/on/on switches come in 'handed' versions, so this switch might be the opposite way round to the way WeirdBits expected. This would explain things not happening as expected.

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