Zandit's First Build Thread

[Zandit75]

Thanks Guys, most appreciated.
Can I ask what happened to the water based stain after you applied the intensifier coat Andy?
I have a bottle of what I am assuming is Black Stump, could that be used over the stain I have and then apply the intensifier?

[Andy40]

Thanks Guys, most appreciated.
Can I ask what happened to the water based stain after you applied the intensifier coat Andy?
I have a bottle of what I am assuming is Black Stump, could that be used over the stain I have and then apply the intensifier?

Sorry, zandit, just saw your post now.

I was trying DT final coat over a waterbased ink stain. It just never did anything no matter how many coats I put on. DB said that the final coat wont work very well unless applied over either the stain coat or both stain and intensifier coats or another oil based sealer.

I can see that you have used the the British Paints Interior stain which is an oil based stain (isn't it?) and you have filled the timber with ebony timbermate (nice choice). I must say i've never tried to put DT over a different stain. my only worry being that the BP stain would have some solvents in it for drying which may play hovoc with the DT.

If it were me....and only because I'm a sucker for taking forever to do my builds....I'd consider sanding the BP stain off, re-timbermating the mahogany and starting the DT from scratch. Gives you more time to talk to your build.

If you are not keen on that idea, post the question on DB's Corner and see what he says. or whack down a coat of your black stump on it and see how crazy it gets! if it doesn't work you can always go back to the drawing board (nothing that can't be undone there!).

A word of advice on the Black Stump. When you first apply the stain coat you may not think its very dark, don't be disheartened, after about 4 stain coats and 3 intensifiers it gets pretty black (even on a maple neck). If you want to see what its like check out AndrewA's PBG build or my SGD-612 build.

[Zandit75]

Sorry, zandit, just saw your post now.

I was trying DT final coat over a waterbased ink stain. It just never did anything no matter how many coats I put on. DB said that the final coat wont work very well unless applied over either the stain coat or both stain and intensifier coats or another oil based sealer.

I can see that you have used the the British Paints Interior stain which is an oil based stain (isn't it?) and you have filled the timber with ebony timbermate (nice choice). I must say i've never tried to put DT over a different stain. my only worry being that the BP stain would have some solvents in it for drying which may play hovoc with the DT.

If it were me....and only because I'm a sucker for taking forever to do my builds....I'd consider sanding the BP stain off, re-timbermating the mahogany and starting the DT from scratch. Gives you more time to talk to your build.

If you are not keen on that idea, post the question on DB's Corner and see what he says. or whack down a coat of your black stump on it and see how crazy it gets! if it doesn't work you can always go back to the drawing board (nothing that can't be undone there!).

A word of advice on the Black Stump. When you first apply the stain coat you may not think its very dark, don't be disheartened, after about 4 stain coats and 3 intensifiers it gets pretty black (even on a maple neck). If you want to see what its like check out AndrewA's PBG build or my SGD-612 build.

The stain I used is water based, and I also have a clear coat that can be used over the top. I could use the same technique for applying it as I did to the stain no doubt, but it has a blueish tint to it. My kitchen table sometimes has a blueish haze to it when seen in certain lights. I didn't do alot of prep work with the table, and I certainly didn't have a mirror finish after I was finished, but I was still happy with it.
Might be time for some trial work tonight.

[Zandit75]

I played around with the head stock today. Not sure if I've stuffed it, but it doesn't look too bad. I tried finding a template I could use, but nothing was readily available. I ended up using a socket but it slipped, so the design has grown a little, and is all free hand now.
I also added a silver edge to the truss rod cover just to break things up a little.



So far, I added two coats of intensifier, as well as applied a small amount on top of my black stain under the heel of the neck. This was just to see what it done to the finish. I'll leave it for a few more days, but so far there has been no reaction between the two products.

[wazkelly]

Logo came out looking pretty good. Plenty of aftermarket Truss Rod Covers for sale on the net if you want one less angular or a bit more personalised.

[stan]

head stock actually turned out pretty well, i like the logo

[Zandit75]

Logo came out looking pretty good. Plenty of aftermarket Truss Rod Covers for sale on the net if you want one less angular or a bit more personalised.

head stock actually turned out pretty well, i like the logo

Thanks Guys. I was devastated when the socket slipped. I'd practiced it several times before attempting the headstock, but the surface was obviously different.
I can live with it though!

[FrankenWashie]

I played around with the head stock today. Not sure if I've stuffed it, but it doesn't look too bad. I tried finding a template I could use, but nothing was readily available. I ended up using a socket but it slipped, so the design has grown a little, and is all free hand now.
I also added a silver edge to the truss rod cover just to break things up a little.



So far, I added two coats of intensifier, as well as applied a small amount on top of my black stain under the heel of the neck. This was just to see what it done to the finish. I'll leave it for a few more days, but so far there has been no reaction between the two products.

I really like that logo Zandit, looks perfect against the grain back drop on that headstock.

[Zandit75]

I really like that logo Zandit, looks perfect against the grain back drop on that headstock.

Thanks Frank, most appreciated. The black hardware certainly adds to it as well.

[andrewdosborne]

Looking good Zandit. Nice theme to this axe and love the logo

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