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Thread: NON-PBG - LP Build Diary for DIY Guitars GLP-40BBK

  1. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by wokkaboy View Post
    that's it Alkay pretty well every shape has been done before. Some on the forum have done a horizontal S shape and left the corners the same height can work.
    Just play around with a shape you like.
    Another tip is to sticky tape your template to the headstock and look at it over a few days you may change your mind on a certain shape
    Thats a good point haha.

    I quite like this one....
    https://www.google.com.au/search?q=c...IUAeAGuOAcM%3A

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    yeah that HS shape is cool Alkay, that headstock is more like a PRS headstock is tapered toward the top but should work on your LP shape.
    Have a good think about it as once the timber is cut there is rarely an undo button ! haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by wokkaboy View Post
    yeah that HS shape is cool Alkay, that headstock is more like a PRS headstock is tapered toward the top but should work on your LP shape.
    Have a good think about it as once the timber is cut there is rarely an undo button ! haha
    Hahaha yeah I know. I'll pick three of my favourites and decide on which...it's a bit hard to put it all back together if I'm not happy with it haha.

  4. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Alkay View Post
    Hahaha yeah I know. I'll pick three of my favourites and decide on which...it's a bit hard to put it all back together if I'm not happy with it haha.
    I think I'll sand the sides top and front of the headstock with 320 or 400 grit because they need work. The rest of the neck I'm really happy with.

    Or maybe wet and dry with 1200 so there is less damage? I know what cedar colour ratio I used so I should be able to match it once I am through the TO and back to bare wood.
    What do you think?
    Last edited by Alkay; 29-06-2016 at 03:35 PM.

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    Hey Alkay sounds like a plan, I'd do that sand back the whole headstock to the neck volute you will get a more even colour rather than patching up bits here and there
    Current Builds and status
    scratch end grain pine tele - first clear coat on !
    JBA-4 - assembled - final tweaks
    Telemonster double scale tele - finish tobacco burst on body and sand neck

    Completed builds
    scratch oak.rose gum Jazzmaster - assembled needs setup
    MK-2 Mosrite - assembled - play in
    Ash tele with Baritone neck - neck pup wiring tweaks and play in

  6. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by wokkaboy View Post
    Hey Alkay sounds like a plan, I'd do that sand back the whole headstock to the neck volute you will get a more even colour rather than patching up bits here and there
    yeah I think so it makes sense.

    Cheers for your help.

    Alkay.

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    Hi Guys, been busy with work lately and just had a quick read of some of the dramas you have had.....bummer.

    As TO coats are very thin not much effort can strip lots off. Never heard about soaking the paper for any period of time as all I do is wrap a fresh piece around the dry cork block, dip it in some water to lube it up, then lightly, very lightly sand in the direction of the finish which on the top usually means with the grain but on sides is quite often across the grain. The sanding block needs to be dipped in the water fairly often mainly to free up the muck in the grit and also provided a bit of lube on the surface being sanded. Don't forget to use a damp rag to wipe the milky stuff off the surface too as you don't want to re-sand over that muck and risk damaging the finish.

    Need to get 8 to 10 good coats down, cure for a week, light wet sand and if you found 1200 was too hungry move up to 1500 to taker less off as all you really want to do is add more shine and smoothness.

    Time to add another 6 to 10 coats and do it all over again, as this time it should come up really glassy and appear to have a lot of depth. Add a few more extremely light coats then leave to cure for a bit longer before using 2000 and progress up through the micro mesh pads.

    No precise science or method as there are too many variables and only you will know when you think there has been enough top coats done.

    I am currently doing a fretless bass neck sealed with CA glue and have delicately sanded that thing many times and still manage to rip through to bare wood. Reckon I am up to about 12th or 13th layers of finish as it takes a bit more finesse to achieve an all over smooth surface. As I said, everything is slightly different and just takes a bit more patience and sometimes a bit more re-application of finish before it becomes just right.

  8. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    Hi Guys, been busy with work lately and just had a quick read of some of the dramas you have had.....bummer.

    As TO coats are very thin not much effort can strip lots off. Never heard about soaking the paper for any period of time as all I do is wrap a fresh piece around the dry cork block, dip it in some water to lube it up, then lightly, very lightly sand in the direction of the finish which on the top usually means with the grain but on sides is quite often across the grain. The sanding block needs to be dipped in the water fairly often mainly to free up the muck in the grit and also provided a bit of lube on the surface being sanded. Don't forget to use a damp rag to wipe the milky stuff off the surface too as you don't want to re-sand over that muck and risk damaging the finish.

    Need to get 8 to 10 good coats down, cure for a week, light wet sand and if you found 1200 was too hungry move up to 1500 to taker less off as all you really want to do is add more shine and smoothness.

    Time to add another 6 to 10 coats and do it all over again, as this time it should come up really glassy and appear to have a lot of depth. Add a few more extremely light coats then leave to cure for a bit longer before using 2000 and progress up through the micro mesh pads.

    No precise science or method as there are too many variables and only you will know when you think there has been enough top coats done.

    I am currently doing a fretless bass neck sealed with CA glue and have delicately sanded that thing many times and still manage to rip through to bare wood. Reckon I am up to about 12th or 13th layers of finish as it takes a bit more finesse to achieve an all over smooth surface. As I said, everything is slightly different and just takes a bit more patience and sometimes a bit more re-application of finish before it becomes just right.
    Good advice, Thanks wazkelly.

    I'm currently applying a few TO coats over the mistake I made before I get to it.

    I'll start soldering soon after I paint the PUP cavities with the conductive shielding paint.

    It's probably a good idea to mask around the cavities on top of the body to stop any of the black paint getting on the finish?

  9. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by wokkaboy View Post
    Hey Alkay sounds like a plan, I'd do that sand back the whole headstock to the neck volute you will get a more even colour rather than patching up bits here and there
    Hi Wokkaboy,

    Thanks for the tips. I have put on a couple of coats of TO and that mistake I made on the side of the body is already allot less noticeable. I'm going to put a couple more coats on and once I'm satisfied with that I'll do the whole body again.

    Cheers,
    Alkay.

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    sounds good Alkay, hopefully you have learnt from your mistakes and next build won't need small fix ups !

    As DB always says the finish is the most important part of the build !

    Your prior question yes always mask when you think any finish may get covered in another product !
    Current Builds and status
    scratch end grain pine tele - first clear coat on !
    JBA-4 - assembled - final tweaks
    Telemonster double scale tele - finish tobacco burst on body and sand neck

    Completed builds
    scratch oak.rose gum Jazzmaster - assembled needs setup
    MK-2 Mosrite - assembled - play in
    Ash tele with Baritone neck - neck pup wiring tweaks and play in

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