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Hi guys, I want to replace a humbucker with a P90 in my first kit which is a AG guitar.
The combination will be 1 x P90, 1 x Humbucker (bridge). It has 2 x volume, 2 x tone, 3 way switch. I want to use a push / pull pot for coil splitting the humbucker. I can find plenty of diagrams for 2 humbuckers which I have used but not a p90 or single coil and 1 humbucker for coil splitting. Does anyone know of a diagram thanks?
I don’t know of a diagram for this combination specifically, but if you can’t find one, you’d basically be taking the bridge pickup and vol/tone pot wiring from a 2 x humbucker w/ split diagram, and the neck pickup and vol/tone wiring from a 2 x P90 diagram. They both meet at the switch, so the switch and output jack wiring should be the same in both anyway.
Thanks Jon, I was looking at it again last night and was thinking the same after searching for a hour..🤦*♂️ Thanks for confirming..👍Quote:
Originally Posted by jonwhitear
The P90 + HB searches seem to come unstuck with the addition of 2 vol/2 tone!
If you marry these two diagrams from Tonerider it will give you what you & Jon were saying. I know I wrap my head around these things better with the use of "visual aids".
Just put the push/pull pot shown in the P-90/HB diagram on the bridge volume control position as per the Rebel 90/HB diagram.
https://tonerider.com/wp-content/upl...v=6cc98ba2045f
https://tonerider.com/wp-content/upl...v=6cc98ba2045f
Don't know it works for you, but there is a way to "auto-split" the bridge HB when switched to the middle switch position (no push/pull pot required). Apparently the P-90 with half HB combination sounds really good. I haven't heard it IRL, but have read about it in a few places.
Awesome...thanks McCreed! I’ll give it a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by McCreed
Thinking of one volume one tone as well now..🤔
Hah!!! I get that!Quote:
Awesome...thanks McCreed! I’ll give it a shot.
Thinking of one volume one tone as well now..🤔
I call it fluid thinking!!!
Lol.! Unfortunately there isn't a lot of fluid happening when I'm thinking McCreed.. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by McCreed
Another thing to ponder - the P90, and Humbucker body routs are different - I don't understand what AG is, when you mention what the kit is. If it's already routed, you'll need a custom pickup ring, or pickguard, (whatever the setup), to cover the difference in hole size.
AG are the SG shaped guitars. So I assume we are looking at a humbucker sized P-90 here.
Yes Simon, SG copy. Yes HarmonIser, I routed the front cavity out with a Dremel and added some 3mm ply to fill the side in.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarmonIser
I actually swapped the idea over to a SG copy guitar I had sitting around for a few years. I battled with it for weeks with the paint I had and got sick of sanding it and painted in gloss black and left it at that. Yesterday I sanded it and thought, that's it, a clear coat and it's done! Haven't seen you around here for a while Simon. Good to see you back again..
Rod, if you are thinking single vol and tone, this diagram will do that. Use the edited one at the bottom of the page not my incorrect one at the top.
https://www.buildyourownguitar.com.a...ead.php?t=6101
Grant
Thank you neverwas. That’s perfect! I didn’t know you could split some P 90s. I thought they were only single coil.Quote:
Originally Posted by neverwas
A traditional P-90 is a single coil. neverwas was using a Kent Armstrong Noiseless P-90 which is technically a humbucker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodc
I have read that Kent does not recommend splitting those because they won't sound very good with one small coil. Same reason people don't split single coil-sized rail humbuckers. They sound very anaemic.
Good info thanks McCreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by McCreed
Only splitting the HB, not the P90. As McCreed has pointed out, was using a 4 wire P90 for this circuit. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
As with any guitar setup, you want sort your pickup heights (from the strings) as the volume difference can be quite noticeable.
Grant
Thanks again neverwas..👍 It’s when I saw the 4 wires on the P90 I was thinking maybe that will split too. Wasn’t going to do it though.Quote:
Originally Posted by neverwas
There are P90s with coil tap - extra winds for hotter output, and a tap at a lesser wind mark, to allow for a lower output option.