hahah ill wait for it bargey xD
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hahah ill wait for it bargey xD
Bargey, you seriously have too much time on your hands...
Not really, I just use it wisely:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by stan
update:
put tgether a dry fit this morning to make sure of all parts. used to TOM bridge in the photos to make it look nice, apart from that i wont have any real use for it.
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i did find that the neck didnt quite sit into the neck pocket properly and therefore left a small gap. im going to be plying around with the neck alot anyway because of the floyd rose going in, so this isnt a huge problem.
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apart from that i found a screw decided to bgin splitting the wood near the puckup cavity, even after i had predrilled. nothing a bit of wood putty wont fix up :)
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really hoping to have that floyd rose comes in soon. its holding up all my production and im bored on my weekend haha. cheers for all your input already lads
I wouldn't use putty to fill that hole, use toothpicks and glue. The putty will crumble when you try and put the screw back in.
looking at the bridge pup location and where the bridge sits is pretty close so its going to be pretty tight to get the floyd rose and pivot posts in but should be able to do it. While you wait for the FR to roll up in the post you can do some work on the neck, shape the headstock and you can start painting it
Cheers for the tip pabs! Really glad you told me that!
Woks I'm actually in town looking for something to shape the headstock with. Thinking of just getting a cheap jigsaw. I want to paint the neck and body at the same time that way any slight discolouration caused by moisture in the air, etc. will be the same and it should look almost identical
Update:
The floyd rose finally came in the mail today along with some much anticipated short stack CDs and DVDs (super excited).
Good news is.. It looks like it's gunna fit. Bad news is.. It's gunna be tighter than a virgin with her legs seen shut. The neck at the end is 68mm and the bridge from outside string to outside string is 63mm. I have 2mm of room on either side. Do I get a new neck? Or do you guys think this will be okay? I'll post some pictures before either Tuesday or Wednesday. cheers lads.
Further update, I checked the measurements against the original bridge of the guitar and they are the same width. The floyd rose should fit perfectly fine :) one very happy Kurt at the moment! Now I need to look at getting it routed out, anyone near Brisbane way and can possibly help me?
good news Kurt, glad it worked out
So that's 2mm either side at the last fret? I would have thought you'd almost get away with that, you'll have to put up some pics.
Hey at least the strings haven't left the fretboard which is a major plus. Good luck with the routing.
nice one Kurt, if the bridge saddle widths are the same it should be fine. I'd get onto Pablo is routing a scratch body and can probably help with the templates required for the FR routes
Bargey that 2mm on either side is what it would have been with the original bridge anyway so the floyd rose should fit fine :)
Woks I just messaged Pablo just before I read this :) and yer from outside string to outside strings on both bridges is 54mm so it should fit perfect :)
While I wait on Pablo, I'll spend my time finishing the headstock with my coping saw.. Never again, I'm getting wankers cramp 😂
photos will be up by Wednesday at the latest!
C'mon, harden up bro!!! Electric saws are for pussies!!Quote:
Originally Posted by KurtSlash123
I can accept that hahah it'll look better though hopefully haha
I should change my to cat then. I use a scroll to get the basic cuts then my dremel the rest of the way...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by bargeloobs
Of course I'm just taking the mickey, I love power tools:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob L
Wish I had a bandsaw but no room in my shop for it! Now that would do some cuttin for sure! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bargeloobs
i still havnt finished that headstock, im over wearing my arm out, its half done though haha. here are those photos as promised guys :)
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more photos to come hopefully in the upcoming days as i took my guitar in a gave it to a rather nice fellow in toowoomba to do the routing for my floyd rose. when that comes back, it will be time to start painting.. finally, although i havnt been able to get ahold of DB to organise a custom colour. anyone know anywhere else that i can order a good stain or that can contact DB for me? Cheers lads :)
nice one Kurt someone doing the routing. Before you stain it I'd recommend a mock build to make sure the FR fits and works ok, in case it needs any more tweaks. It's worth screwing the neck on, fit the FR, springs, trem claw, string it up to get an idea if the tremelo will sit flat. The spring cavity needs to be long enough to get the necessary tension on the tremelo.
Send DB an email : dingobass at pitbullguitars dot com and hopefully he will get back to you next couple of days about a custom stain.
Better keep the language down before the moderators growl, its a family friendly forum !
yeah i should watch myself on that, its slipped into my more frequent vocabulary.. not good for me i know :/
i emailed DB about a week ago and i still havnt heard back, hes probably just busy. im sure he'll respond soon. either that or ill post in the dingotone thread xP
this guy is doing a mock build anyway to make sure the neck fits to his work and whatnot, but ill double check when i get it back anyway. on another note does anybody know personally how to put the locking nut on, does it have to be chocked up, i dont see much of a choice behind it i dont think. but i gotta do what i gotta do, does the locking nut need the string doobiewokie (using technical terms) behind in to hold the strings down or something. if annyone knows what im talking about? haha
MAJOR UPDATE!!!!!
as i said the girl went in for her routing to fit the floyd rose and boy did we have a few problems... lets work through it all...
first of all we couldnt get exact measurements because as we foound, pitbull guitars dont have measurements with there kits or online ( that i could find anyway) so we had to work out the scale length and all other measurements of the guitar and just hope they were right, still have know way of finding out whether they are okay untill i put her all together again, were pretty sure we got it all right though. after figuring out our measurements, we finally managed to make some templates up :)
here are some pictures of the cuts on just scrap pieces of timber.
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front
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back
then when we were happy with our cut we decided to do the outline on the actual guitar... take note of the gap between where the bridge will be and the where the pickup will be. you cant see the gap? thats because it is virtually nonexistent!
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without pickup
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with pickup
that meant doing 2 things, option one was to forget the floyd rose and pay the guy 70 bucks for his efforts or.. option 2 was to move the bridge cavity forward 10-15 mil and chock up that pickup cavity. of course i decided to go with option 2. meaning i was going to have some patchy looking wood on it meaning the stain was going to end up looking like absolute crap. so instead of staining it like i originally wanted to, im going a solid colour, still probably a red. good thing i didnt order that custom colour from DB huh?
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glueing in the filler
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filler finished
next thing was to do was to outline the new pickup cavity.
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pickup tmplate in place
finally after all this, it was time to get started on the purpose of all this mucking around.. this is where it started to get really exciting!!
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seatbelt on for the final ride!
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first layer of the final cut
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finished bridge cavity at the front
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finished bridge cavity at the back
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bridge installed front
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bridge installed back.
so this is it so far. unfortunately i forgot to take photos while the new pickup cavity was being cut but all the same im pretty happy with the job this guy has done and all for under $100 (think it cost me $90 for everything he did). dont forget to scroll back through my lasat 3 posts to see my progress :)
Great Job Kurt looks like the Guy did a grand job for you .
looks very neat routing job Kurt, you must be happy with that !
So you need to plug the tailpiece bush holes ?
Cool, nice job. You can still put some strategically placed stripes of solid colour and stain the rest.
I was the making about it pabs but it becomes too much mucking around to try and get something that might not look half as good anyway, it's easier for me to go a solid colour considering I've painted many things before but never stained. I'm afraid staining just isn't going to do it for this one, although, I'm thinking of putting a nice big short stack logo in the corner as a tribute to my favourite band. Not sure yet, will play around on photo shop for a little while longer and see what I come up with
Okay fellows I have a slight problem and am asking for opinions. With the new floyd Rose bridge in place it means that strings sit lower. The neck is now significantly higher than that bridge. Do I sand the neck pocket out to make the neck sit lower? or do I sand the neck to make the pocket sit lower? :
I'd say sand the neck rather than the pocket. It's more salvageable.
We'll wait for the experts though...
Kurt the floyd rose should pivot from the 2 posts, you should be able to adjust the height of the posts, are they at or near maximum height ?
Don't sand the neck heel or pocket, it is important the mating surfaces are flush and level
Woks the height level of those posts are is pretty close to the maximum height at an estimate and still isn't high enough, I'm going to have to do something with the neck anyway because it was designed for a TOM bridge and slants backwards to compensate for such a height from the TOM, with it now being a floyd rose the neck has to be pretty flush with the body so I'm going to have to do something there anyway. If it were up to you woks, how would you go about it?
wait until DB gets his opinion in on the subject Kurt, but it might be a case of routing the neck pocket dead flat with a template to guide you and using a shim to compensate for the lost height
some nice work there Kurt, I'd sand the neck heal: you can always get a new neck if it doesnt work out
Well today I'm getting my paint and everything paint wise for the guitar. On another note does anyone happen to have any specs on the locking nut and how high I need to chick that up or something? I'm clueless at that point. As soon as that's done Im going to attempt to sand down the neck heel, hopefully all goes well. 👍
Having never had any experience with this kit I'm not familiar with the neck pocket setup but usually what happens with a TOM bridge setup is that there is a "break" angle cut into the neck pocket of the body so that the neck slopes downhill from the body. If this is the case (with these kits) I can't see sanding the neck is going to fix your issue as the "slope" in the neck pocket will still remain. By rights, to get your neck running level with the body you'd need to put a shim in the neck pocket therefore removing the break angle.
Okay so after putting a 360 degree spirit level on it, I've found the neck pocket is slanted by 1 degree and so is the neck. The neck will get sanded flat, not sure whether to file the neck pocket down a fraction or to chock it.
The Floyd kit didn't come with the specs for the locking nut? Is it a real Floyd (rip your nut out and replace it with the locking nut style) or is it a Kahler style (nut remains and the locking nut goes on the headstock)?
Either way the kit should have come with installation instructions. Floyd style locking nuts are a fairly invasive install, with bolts going right through the neck usually. So make sure you have it all sorted out before you start anything.
It's a genuine floyd but it came from a second hand dealer so it didn't come with any instructions at all. The locking nut is a proper locking but where I have to rip the old but out which is already done. I was sort of more concerned with heights etc.
dont know about Floyds, but most people seem to shim neck angle issues. If you sand, you will effectively lower the fret board by the same amount, so think about if that affects the build...