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Lots of help Jarrod, thanks - I will bake it in the oven... lol
Thanks for the tips on adding the clear as well
I have repainted mine twice and doing my second edge repair. I've scraped the binding so much (I keep scratching it and paint works its way in...), I'm surprised it's not transparent.
Black guitars - Look awesome - painful to paint. The cooler weather is making it worse and time for a break for a few days.
you will get there Stan, just need to be patient while the paint cures. Thats why you need another project to work on !
Wokka as funny as that sounds it works for me , like your self I have 7 guitars on the go so there is always something to do while clear cures .
hmmm, time to start the ES then
good call Stan, what colour plans you got for the ES ? Better gear up for the councilling you will need after the wiring ! haha
have had tech jobs in the past, wiring is fine, its finishes i seem to have issues with. Same as the LP, just smaller access.
Actually thinking of a gloss black, like bargeloobs' LP. It will be a painted top either way, as the bridge holes have to be redone
A canvas that size in black would look dam fine Stan. I have built a scratch Prs custom which will have a bagged finish on it (all will be shown in non PB gear section but it has turned out awsome) .
Sounds nice Jarrod, looking forward to seeing that. LP is having some curing time
Good stuff Stan, your going to end up with a nice guitar in the end
I can only imagine how sick a blacktop ES would look, what with the added binding in the F-Hole jeez, you got me thinkin' now!
Look if you need any advice on what not to do in regards to a black gloss finish just give me a holla, I'm an expert.
Things must be drying out now anyway, we've been lucky in my neck of the woods it's been quite warm the last couple of days.
thanks Jarrod
that's gold bargeloobs, you will actually be an expert with all your practice.
This ES doesnt have binding in the f holes, but i might paint the edges...
"This ES doesnt have binding in the f holes"
I'm not sure why I presumed it did to be honest, but hey there's a thought, kick the build off with something easy like binding the f-holes :P
sure why not, the upgraded righty has the triple binding on the edges and f hole and headstock binding
Would be great to read about the process if you do it Stan. I've never attempted it and it would be great to hear your experiences..
cheers,
Gav
Sorry Gav irony doesnt translate well with the typed word - unless the process is far easier than I thought, I wont be binding the F holes, perhaps paint. But now you've made me look into it, damn, now I want to give it a go....
Yeah I was definitely being cheeky when I suggested you do that, you detected my sarcasm didn't ya Stan!Quote:
/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from stan on May 17, 2014, 17:26
Sorry Gav irony doesnt translate well with the typed word - unless the process is far easier than I thought, I wont be binding the F holes, perhaps paint. But now you've made me look into it, damn, now I want to give it a go....
Sounds like a rocky road to heartache if you ask me, but that's only if I were doing it.
It would be interesting to see someone attempt it though.
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/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from bargeloobs on May 17, 2014, 18:22
Yeah I was definitely being cheeky when I suggested you do that, I know you detected my sarcasm didn't ya Stan!Quote:
/<\\/p>[/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/]<\\/p>/Quote from stan on May 17, 2014, 17:26
Sorry Gav irony doesnt translate well with the typed word - unless the process is far easier than I thought, I wont be binding the F holes, perhaps paint. But now you've made me look into it, damn, now I want to give it a go....
Honestly it sounds like a rocky road to heartache if you ask me, but that's only if I were doing it.
It would be interesting to see someone attempt it though.
Ok so I checked out how f hole binding is done- a bit above my skill level, however painting seems to get good results, so that is on the cards for the ES.
But this is the LP thread . Touch ups and the never ending binding scraping going on. The second I am happy with it on goes the clear
OK, trying to make the edges nicer, but getting bleed through on the binding.
After cleaning up this, the clear will go on, had enough! They wont be perfect, but there is only so much time in my life.
Besides, if I scrape the binding any more there wont be any left
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...roject/014.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...roject/015.jpg
On the up side, my decals from the super professional Andyport are in the mail, so headstock will be looking better in no time!
[quote]/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from stan on May 19, 2014, 12:49
OK, trying to make the edges nicer, but getting bleed through on the binding.
From what you can see the finish looks wicked but why the hell is that bleeding through so much? What sort of tape you running Stan. Is it possible to get some turps on a cotton bud and very gently rub away a bit of that over spray to save scraping anymore binding off and then just finish off with the blade to get a fine edge? Not sure how binding reacts with turps, might be a bad idea...
yep thought about that one and didnt want to risk melting binding or I'd have a melt down myself.
The type a bear brand yellow, pretty good, I think the trouble was my application, not the tape itself.
Anyway - it's ready for the tack cloth and clear coats
all cleaned up and a 1200 grit rub down ready for the clear:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...ject/022-1.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...ject/023-1.jpg
However, a win; the neck turned out great!
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...roject/017.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...roject/021.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...roject/020.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...roject/019.jpg
It that just glare on the back of the body?...Tell me you you didn't...
That neck looks outstanding, looks like you got a well defined edge along the binding, sharp as!
yes mate just glare, there is so much paint on there I would have to use a chisel to rub through... lol
As for the neck - proper application of tape, thin coats all good, should have done the same with the body, but both will be fine
Orr phew, it was a bit deceiving that pic. You're away laughing now!
Great job on the neck Stan! Roll on the clear coats...! Looking forward to seeing the satin.
cheers,
Gav.
cheers Gav, clears have started, OMG, as bad as doing the black!
Have to be very light and careful here
Looks like the body is catching up to the neck. A couple of coats of satin clear, 1200 wet rub between coats:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...roject/002.jpg
iPhone pics so far, will do some nice ones when finished
Bargeloobs has dubbed this build The Dark Knight, and I think it will stick. At least Christian Bale was Batman in that one, so not too bad.
I think a couple more of clear, let it cure and on to the front....
Have my headstock logos done, by Andyport and they are awesome, so my "brand name" will be released soon...
A triumph of perseverence.
This is the business now, looking forward to those better pics . . .
looks fantastic Stan, well done for persevering, its paid off
Oooooh yeah, you can see the badassidness (sorry that's not a word)taking shape already, the time you've spent on the paint job really shows, it looks flawless.
What plans have you got for the hardware on top (colour wise) or are you keeping hush hush?
thanks guys.
It certainly isn't flawless, but not a bad first try.
Pups are all black Seymour Duncan SH4 SH2 combo, and the other hardware is all chrome.
Genuine Gibson pots
Orange Drop caps
Braided wiring
Have a choice of cream or black pickguard etc, will have to see later.
Top colour, yet to be revealed, is also dark, and hopefully very glossy.
Awww come on Stan, the wait is killing me! Reveal, reveal!!!
cheers,
Gav.
OK Gav, just for you, my keyboard is a bit iffy so don't mind any errors, the colour is going to be vgggnsjunuundmm
time for some more pics.
On close inspection i didnt quite get the masking right on the neck. I left a small slither of timber showing.
There was no way I was going to remask and paint again, so here is the solution:
Slight edge issue, hard to see but a triangle of bare timber between the binding and the painted surface running from the nut for about 3cm as it tapers off.:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...roject/003.jpg
One sharpie pen, black out the error, once it's neatened up and clear goes over it should hide well (I hope...)
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...roject/005.jpg
[quote]/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from stan on May 23, 2014, 19:05
time for some more pics.
On close inspection i didnt quite get the masking right on the neck. I left a small slither of timber showing.
There was no way I was going to remask and paint again, so here is the solution:
Lookin' real nice Stan, I tell you what I was doing in those exact situations was masking off the binding to the correct postion, spraying at bit of color into a little pot, then dabbing the black into the aforementioned area with a cotton bud. That way you're getting the exact colour back in there and you can go over a few times to get the thickness back, then just a light wet sand with 1200 once dry to level it out before moving on... IDK, it seemed to work.
Yes , that would be the correct way but I am lazy BL
C'mon Stan, that's not the O.C.D spirit, naa I'm just shittin' your way should be cool.Quote:
/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from stan on May 23, 2014, 19:40
Yes , that would be the correct way but I am lazy BL
Stan, I love it! Always an easy workaround :)