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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMark View Post
    Nonetheless a nice looking kit. What is a dragon burst?
    More the realm of a quilted veneer or top....but the grain on Ash screams for a different treatment.

    This is a dragon burst.....
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    Looks like a nice starting point. Grain looks pretty good too.
    Interesting the body came with the strap button, jack plate and vibrato cover holes pre-drilled. I've not seen that on kits before. (but tbh, I haven't done a PBG strat kit yet)

    I'll be interested in what you think of the tone of the Entwistle Noiseless. I'm a big fan of the Fender Vintage Noiselsess ( I have them in several strats). I used to be able to get them for about $225AU a set if I hunted for them hard & often. Now they seem to be upwards of $300. I haven't found much for reviews or YT demos.

    You are probably already aware to check your cavity route depth before you get too far. The Entwistles are 27.5mm deep (top cover to bottom of 2nd coil) significantly more than a standard single coil, and even more than the Fenders @ 19mm.

    Look forward to watching this progress. Happy Christmas too!
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    I've had good results with "natural" stain from minwax on maple fretboards. It seems to grab just enough of the darks to make it really pop against the contrasting pale maple. But like Simon said, you gotta see what you get before you really know how to proceed.

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    What is happening here???

    I am home after xmas and thought I would have a dig at the wiring. Took all the old stuff off and then....what the hang is this???

    The pickups all seem to be split or something. They do have a noiseless winding underneath. But what do I solder where???
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    I am using this wiring diagram.

    This diagram is the one I am using.

    Your kind ideas will gladly be sucked up and soldered in place. Thank you in advance.
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    Presuming you haven't sorted this out on your own already, based on the leadout for humbuckers (and looking at the Entwistle website) you're on the right track there. The ASN-57's are just a vertically stacked humbucker instead of side by side.

    Red/White soldered together, Green & Bare both go to ground and Black is the positive (go to switch).
    Entwistle has copied the Seymour Duncan colour codes which helps too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCreed View Post
    Presuming you haven't sorted this out on your own already, based on the leadout for humbuckers (and looking at the Entwistle website) you're on the right track there. The ASN-57's are just a vertically stacked humbucker instead of side by side.

    Red/White soldered together, Green & Bare both go to ground and Black is the positive (go to switch).
    Entwistle has copied the Seymour Duncan colour codes which helps too.
    Hold the phone here....a vertically stacked Humbucker......so I could fit more push pulls and split to get more sounds?

    But would the coils underneath have enough oomph to pickup the strings?

    I think that their purpose is to reduce the noise....and maybe I should just wire them for that purpose.

    Thank you for the ideas.....
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    Wiring Harness is done.

    Thank You McCreed,

    I agree with your decoding of the wiring and have finished the harness with the suggested wiring options.

    One push pull pot is enough for now.

    I have a headstock template of a 50's strat to cut out next.
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    Cool! Nice tidy wiring. I like it!
    I think you need a bigger cap though! (just kidding)

    re: the two coils, the bottom one is indeed there for hum-cancelling. There are no tonal benefits to splitting them in a stacked configuration that I know of.

    Fender Vintage (and Hot) Noiseless are based on the same principle, but they wire them so that there are just two leads coming off the pickup like a traditional single coil. (there's no confusion this way).

    Dimarzio Area's, Lace Sensors, Seymour Duncan Classic Stack are also all stacked SC-sized humbuckers with 4 (or 5) leads just like the Entwistles.

    Def interested in what you think of the tone of the Entwistles compared to standard single coils.
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    With reference to the copper screening on the back of the scratchplate, I'd check the continuity between the existing 'silver' foil screen and the copper. My experience is that the silver screening foil often has a non-conductive covering, so that to get the copper tape grounded, you need to run the tape all the way over the silver film area so that it's in contact with the pot bodies. This may not be the case here, but I've found it to be so on two Strat style guitars I've upgraded things on.

    The silver foil only makes contact with the pots around the pot hole locations, or via the edges of any shake-proof washers used on the pots, so it's often a good idea just to run the copper over that are anyway, just to be sure that it's well screened.

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