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    The lesson is to inspect carefully and make sure the windings are protected..

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    If anyone's interested this is the circuit I'm currently planning. I figured it out while I still thought I was going to have a single coil pickup at the neck, so I bought the switches for that.
    Its basically Jazz bass style wiring, with a coil tap switch for the bridge pickup and a phase reverse on the neck pickup. I've set it so the phase reverse switch also coil taps.
    I suppose, thinking about it, a more conventional alternative would be to ditch the phase reverse and have both switches simply coil taps, but I have a reverse phase switch on my Jazz Bass and use it.

    If I'm honest, the reason why it has 3 pots and two switches is because it came with 5 holes in the body for controls...

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    This is going to be a dumb question, I think.... The lower switch looks like it is a two throw, three pole switch... Is that right?

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    Yes indeed, three pole. Sorta fortuitous. I didn't need 3 pole for my original circuit, but the source only had one pole and 3 pole in stock of the design I wanted.

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    Looks like it will work. You probably knew that but I always post mine to see what grave errors I have made.

    Curious why you want the phase switching?

    The only piece of advice I have is to try it and see if you like it before putting it in. This wiring harness is a bear to install. I tested both of mine first and inn both cases testing resulted in using different caps than I thought I would use. In both cases have also wondered if I should have done a little more testing.

    The first has a weird Dano harness...and I am wondering about the pot values. In the case of the recent one, I might have tried treble bleeds...

    If these harnesses were on a Jazz bass I might open it up and experiment a little more. On an ES my unhappiness would need to bend toward clinical depression to mess with in now that it's installed and working. I actually ended up soldering a ground wire that had come loose through the F-holes rather than take it out again. My fingers hurt from weird positions I put them in. I kept hoping that my mom was wrong and that my face would not stay that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fender3x View Post
    Curious why you want the phase switching?
    Well, there are two answers.

    The first is that I have the phase switch on my Jazz bass, and I like the options it gives. Not with both pickups flat out, but with one pickup on full and the other backed off a fair bit there are some interesting and unusual sounds.

    The second is that I want standard Jazz bass controls - 2 vol and a tone in a row, which leaves me with two more holes I need to fill with something. I've never found much use for pickup switching on my bass - I don't do solos and stuff, so wanted something else to fill the holes.
    My original plan was a coil tap on the humbucking bridge pickup and the phase on a single coil neck pickup, but after I stuffed up the Maxon humbucker I ordered a pair of budget humbuckers. So what I've gone for is a setup that will deliver both humbuckers as a default, and maybe there'll be something different and useful with the options. Or they might end up just cosmetic in practice!
    A nice thing about this - I hope - is that many of the variations I can think of at the moment are on the three pole switch. So I hope I'll just be able to hook that out without disturbing the rest if I want to try other stuff.
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    That all makes sense.

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    The latest irritation is that my new Artec humbuckers have arrived, but are not standard size: they are decidedly narrow. So the cream pickup rings I have carefully shaped so they are the right thickness and curvature for the guitar are of very limited value...

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    I am traveling at the moment so I can't take a better pic. But maybe there is a way to save your work...

    FWIW the black that you see around the cream bobbins is a spacer that I made. I did it with a router to round the corners, but that might be overkill if your pups are a more normal shape. You could do this with an exacto knife or box cutter and maybe a dremmel or sandpaper to clean up anything that needs it.

    I made the spacers from hotel card keys that I spray painted black. The material is strong and thin, and the cards are just a bit larger than a pup ring, so relatively easy to cut down.

    One day I will catalog the uses I make of these little cards. Remarkably usefulName:  IMG_20191102_202958__01-529x1482__01.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by fender3x View Post
    FWIW the black that you see around the cream bobbins is a spacer that I made.
    Interesting. I thought of and immediately rejected the idea of a white spacer, or any attempt to match the cream, but a black one might look more designed. I shall certainly add that to the options I'm considering, thank you.

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