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    SG II restoration project

    This weekend I picked up my mates Gibson SGII that had been drowned in the floods a few years back to finish off the restoration for him, all of the bits are there so it's only a matter of a refin and rewire to get it humming again.

    The serial suggests it was build 70-72 or 74-76 in Kalamazoo, but he was playing it in 1972 so it has to be the earlier build window.

    The pickups are the much unloved Gibson single coils so we'll see how it sounds when finished, the only non original bits are GOTOH tuners that are identical to the broken Gibson original that he couldn't get genuine branded replacements for.

    The originals are marked Gibson Delux on the gear covers and this is the only detour

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    Once this one is sorted he has a 73 Tele Delux that suffered the same drowning and needs the same help

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    Never seen one of them before.
    # 1 - EX-5 https://goo.gl/fQJMqh
    # 2 - EX-1 https://goo.gl/KSY9W9
    # 3 - Non PBG Tele https://goo.gl/W14G5g
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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    Never seen one of them before.
    Looks I have the model name wrong it was an SG 200

    There was also an SG 100 which had a single pup in the neck position.

    This SG 200 belongs to Wes the guy who plays pedal steel for us and back in the early 70s when he and Max were a duo Max had the SG 100 so I'll see if I can get a pic of the two guitars side by side

    A link to a bit about them and some pics
    http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/t...-odd-71-72-sg/

    Just found more info, the SG250 that I just named and then removed was a cherry burst whereas the 100 & 200 were single colour.

    The SG originally had P90 style pickups and these single coils were a carry over from the discontinued Melody Maker and the design wasn't popular because the body was bigger than the original SG and the pickups were weedy & thin sounding.

    The SG 100, 200 & 250 were discontinued in favour of the newly launched SG 1, 2 & 3 which featured HB pickups
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    Not the prettiest thing to look at.
    # 1 - EX-5 https://goo.gl/fQJMqh
    # 2 - EX-1 https://goo.gl/KSY9W9
    # 3 - Non PBG Tele https://goo.gl/W14G5g
    # 4 - Non PBG J Bass https://goo.gl/FbBaFy
    # 5 - TL-1AR GOTM Aug 2017 https://goo.gl/sUh14s
    # 6 - MMB-4 Runner-up GOTM Oct 2018https://goo.gl/gvrPkp
    # 7 - ES-1 Runner-up GOTM Aug 2018https://goo.gl/T9BEY8

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    More info here that I quoted from above, looks like it could be worth something over a grand if Wes wanted to sell it and a buyer was looking for one.

    The one in the article is a factory 2nd which this one is not, however it will be a refin with non original tuners and no bridge cover

    https://www.premierguitar.com/articl...e_Gibson_SG200

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    Very Straty sounding. You've just got to treat it as a different guitar to an SG, that just happens to be SG shaped.

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    Time to start thinking about the finish.

    Wes has used Wattyl Mulberry wood gel interior stain which is about the right colour but it's a bit patchy so a rub back will be required, I'll see if I can find a bit of similar coloured mahogany at the local joinery to test some finish options on.

    I'm thinking Tru Oil over the stain is going to be the go but open to suggestions

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    Just ordered a set of Kluson 3 on a strip tuners as per the original to use instead of the GOTOH tuners.

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    Period correct Klusons and headstock decal turned up in the mail today, better get on with the finish I guess

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    After moving house and what seems like a lifetime of inaction and fighting with the stain I have finally reached the stage where I have one more coat of Feast Watson wipe on poly to go and then I'll let it sit for a week prior to cutting, buffing and rewiring.

    Much to my surprise it has come out an almost identical cherry red to the Gibson original colour, except for a couple of lighter spots on the front of the headstock ( naturally ), definitely not a glue issue the stain simply wouldn't darken right up.

    Given that the SG 100 & 200 came with either body colour or black headstock I suggested to the owner that we should go black but he was adamant that it had to be the same cherry colour so it is what it is.

    Watch this space

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