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Thread: Igor gets the Blues, The FrankenLab Reso Project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMark View Post
    I used Feast Watson stains. If you go down the stain path just be prepared for things to turn out different to what you expect. I was trying to do a neck burst like in the above photos, but the timber had other ideas.
    Thats one of the reasons I was thinking the lacquer or nitro route, slightly easier to shield off or mask etc
    IGOR, I know it can be done, the question is, should we be the ones doing it?

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    Masking off binding, what a fiddly, PITA job!



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    IGOR, I know it can be done, the question is, should we be the ones doing it?

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    Hey Frankie,
    Is the preamp compulsory for the piezo pickup to work? I think I may have accidentally bought the last kit... I should do some Google research, I guess.
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    You'll really need a separate output for the piezo if you don't use a preamp. For a flat response, the piezo needs to feed into an impedance of around 10 Megohms. A standard guitar amp has an impedance of 1 Megohm and the line input on a mixer of 10-47k ohms.

    You'll get a sound from it if connected to a guitar amp, but it will be all midrangey and horrid. Maybe more acceptable for a resonator but the sound will still need a lot of EQ work to get it reasonable, which probably won't be similar to the EQ you'd want for the magnetic pickup.

    You can use an external pre-amp designed for an acoustic guitar with a piezo - but again that's going to require a separate output.

    Another option is an acoustic guitar amp with a 10Megohm input. I've just bought a Fishman Loudbox Mini acoustic amp (which is a very reasonable priced and good performing compact amp) and I found out after purchasing that it has a 10k instrument input, so can take piezos directly.

    If you want to use the piezo rather than the magnetic sound, then you are better off using a full-range amp such as an acoustic guitar amp or an active PA speaker, as the limited frequency response of a guitar amp speaker will take off some of the top-end and clarity that the piezo gives.

    So unless you want to use a separate amp or external pre-amp, then fitting an on-board pre-amp is really going to be the best sounding option when using a single output.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swanny View Post
    Hey Frankie,
    Is the preamp compulsory for the piezo pickup to work? I think I may have accidentally bought the last kit... I should do some Google research, I guess.
    What Simon said Swannie!😁
    I’ve gone completely FrankenHack with mine, but you can find all sorts of different pre amps on line, if you look at Corksniffers build diary, he didn’t go with a preamp and still got a good result. I think he has a wiring diagram in there somewhere.
    IGOR, I know it can be done, the question is, should we be the ones doing it?

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    Cheers, gentlemen! I have some research and buying to do while on nightshift for the week.
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    I’ve not been a fan of working with the Pawlonia, it’s fibrous and pulls under even the sharpest tools, though it does machine reasonably well.

    After slapping on some sanding sealer this afternoon, I may have to review how I go about attacking the final colouring and finish scheme.



    The back doesn’t fare quite as well as it is rather plain to begin with. So it is likely to get the full blackout, but I want to try and leave some of the grain visible through the cutaways, so it may more of a varied edge with the black brown fading in and out.





    Ever so slowly forwards!
    IGOR, I know it can be done, the question is, should we be the ones doing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankenWashie View Post
    “Beware the Igorbotch, my son!
    The curves not masked, the tape that lifts!
    Beware exposed edges and shun
    The frumious binding cracks!”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Barden View Post
    “Beware the Igorbotch, my son!
    The curves not masked, the tape that lifts!
    Beware exposed edges and shun
    The frumious binding cracks!”
    Yers, verily some clean up and re taping before stain, a full sealer sand will be required.
    IGOR, I know it can be done, the question is, should we be the ones doing it?

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