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    Hey Ads, maybe ask if they can cut a thicker veneer (or ask their veneer supplier) would be better than gluing 2 thin veneers together, plus would be more time consuming for the factory you would have to glue one veneer at a time and make sure the centre line is lined up. If they are about 0.6mm thick now I think a 1-1.2mm thick veneer would be ideal and save alot of sand throughs and glue seepage
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    Most sand through-issues seem to be as a result of glue spots, though a few seem to be from trying to remove scratches in the veneer. Gluing a second veneer on top of the first would still give the same problem with glue seepage through the wood. And as you said Adam, any sand-through of the first layer will expose a different veneer pattern.

    Is it a cost or technical issue that stops them wanting to use a thicker veneer? Have they tried other glues that are less likely to seep through the wood?

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    I agree with Wokkaboy and Simon. I'd prefer a thiker veneer over two layers of thin veneer.

    Besides the extra cost and time of applying two thin layers I think the overall quality of the veneer wil be less. And veneer is softer than the mahogony so the top could be damaged more easily.

    Other glue could also be a solution.
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    Seems the problem isn't the glue spots themselves, but the wearing through veneer to remove them.
    If the veneer were thicker, then removing glue spots wouldn't be such a show-stopper.

    Then take the machine-head drill off of Freddy Krueger and voila!!


    cheers, Mark.

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    I've had no glue spots on any of mine...soz
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    Thanks.

    Yes, we have asked them for the past 4 years for a thicker veneer and it just doesn't seem possible... for them.

    I guess it's their supplier who is refusing to come to the party.

    We'll keep pushing them though.

    This photo evidence will help our case.
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    Adam



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    This one on an IB-7 from a little time ago
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    And for a little variety some excess glue from binding running down the inside back on a FS-1, some on the outside but seems to have cleaned up with Goof-off. (Used the torch to make it easier to see in pics)
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    Someone was so proud they decided to sign their work, through both f-holes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by king casey View Post
    Seems the problem isn't the glue spots themselves, but the wearing through veneer to remove them.
    If the veneer were thicker, then removing glue spots wouldn't be such a show-stopper.

    Then take the machine-head drill off of Freddy Krueger and voila!!

    cheers, Mark.

    na I don't sand veneer tops at all and they are there from the start, I've removed a couple of small marks with goof off but generally have no joy and end up painting over them.
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    But isn't that a waiste of nice veneer and a spoil in your fun of creating a good looking guitar?

    @Adam: you mentioned that you met another kit supplier in Germany. How are their kits in comparison with your current supplier?
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    I doubt Adam will know until he's sent a few samples and DB has a look at them for him. At any trade show, they are only going to take their best examples along, so you really need to see some off-the-shelf kits taken at random to see the average level of construction..

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