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    Overlord of Music andrewdosborne's Avatar
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    Looks awesome Woks hope you enjoyed your Bunnings visit lol

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    The fretboard is an interesting area on these seeing as you don't ever touch it! I actually dragged my half-completed one out last night and had a play... I'm thinking I might get a piece of perspex to mark fret locations so as not to cover the wood underneath... It could also be an option for you?

    Here's a repost of my surf-inspired one:
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    Are you planning to play it in the bath, Chuck?

    Personally I'd put a fretboard on it. I can't play slide well enough to warrant making one of these (however tempting the idea is) but if I did, I'd want to be looking at something I recognised, and not be distracted by pretty-looking wood stripes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Barden View Post
    Are you planning to play it in the bath, Chuck?
    That or mount some skateboard trucks underneath like one of those Cole Clark ones!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Barden View Post
    Personally I'd put a fretboard on it. I can't play slide well enough to warrant making one of these (however tempting the idea is) but if I did, I'd want to be looking at something I recognised, and not be distracted by pretty-looking wood stripes.
    You're probably right. I can't play slide well enough either - this thing is probably more about aesthetics than usefulness (something that's never stopped me building anything before!!)
    Completed Builds: #1 TL-1 "Telemaster" (GOTM Oct 2016); #2 The "Maplecaster" scratch build; #3 JB-4 "Bass IV" (co-winner GOTM Jan 2017); #4 ST-1M "Surfcaster" (GOTM Apr 2017), #5 JZA-1 "EC Deluxe"

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    Build #6 N1R "Semi-scratch" build
    Build #7 JZA-1 Baritone

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    I admit I didn't quite get the concept of lap-steels when I joined the forum but after watching some demo's by Robert Randolph over the weekend I can certainly see the appeal. This looks like it's going to be pretty cool Wokka
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    Quote Originally Posted by cade711 View Post
    I admit I didn't quite get the concept of lap-steels when I joined the forum
    I feel the same cade, lap steels never really got any attention from me but this forum has made me more inclined to have one...

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    You can do stuff on a LS that you cannot do on a guitar; even some modern(ish) rock music was done on one - One of these days by Pink Floyd being the most famous and the reason I have a very old, NZ built Commodore lap steel!

    The stringpack on a LS is quite flat and the tonebar works on them all without tilting whereas a normally tuned and intonated guitar has the stringpack following the contour of the fretboard, i.e. slightly convex, which means you have to tilt the slide to get to either edge. I play slide in standard tuning on the D, G and B strings, occasionally going to the A but try to avoid using either E, simply because I'm not good enough to do it easily and make it sound OK!!

    Wokka - I hear you but gee; that sure is a pretty laminate.... I agree you'll need some sort of position marking, especially for a baritone tuned a perfect fourth below. I have enough trouble with standard pitch - LS tuned to a chord is great because once you've found your root, the rest you can slide into!!
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    High Hopes by Pink Floyd is a great example of lap steel in a rock environment as is a lot of David Linley stuff behind Jackson Brown.

    Robert Randolph plays pedal steel which is a very different beast altogether
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    Mr Randolph has also started playing lapsteel. He even has a signature Peavey Powerslide.
    https://peavey.com/products/index.cfm/item/669/118861
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    Scratchie lapsteel
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    JBA-4
    TL-1TB
    Scratch Lapsteel
    Meinl DIY Cajon
    Cigar Box lap steel

    Wishing:
    Baritone
    Open D/Standard Double 6 twin neck

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    cheers for the feedback and suggestions everyone !
    I'm in 2 minds now to use a fingerboard or not. I started cutting fret slots for white cable ties yesterday and got about 7 of 28 frets done, it's not that easy as I don't have a saw wide enough for the width of a cable tie.
    I might look into putting some marker on the laminate and drilling the fret dots into that.

    @ Simon, in hindsight it would have been easier to shape the tuner slots before gluing but in the end I got there, used a dremel with a guide to clean up the edges.
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