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    Mentor Zandit75's Avatar
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    Thanks Weirdy & Woks, most appreciated.
    This doesn't have a pickguard as the cavities are accessed from the back of the guitar, so I'll only be doing the insides of the cavity.
    Here's the guitar before I started stripping it.
    Acoustics:
    1995 Maton EM725C - Solid 'A' Spruce Top, QLD Walnut B&S, AP5 Pickup
    2015 Ibanez AEL108MD-NT - Laminated Spruce top, Laminated Mahogany B&S, Fishman Sonicore Pickup


    Electrics:
    Pitbull LP-1S - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=5745
    Carsen Superstrat Rebuild - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=6284

    Builds in Progress:
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    wow that was a colourful axe Zandit !

    be worth shielding the pup cavities as well as the control cavity and control cover
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    Quote Originally Posted by wokkaboy View Post
    wow that was a colourful axe Zandit !

    be worth shielding the pup cavities as well as the control cavity and control cover
    Thanks mate, will do.
    It's a little different now, check out the thread if you haven't already seen it.
    http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=6284
    Acoustics:
    1995 Maton EM725C - Solid 'A' Spruce Top, QLD Walnut B&S, AP5 Pickup
    2015 Ibanez AEL108MD-NT - Laminated Spruce top, Laminated Mahogany B&S, Fishman Sonicore Pickup


    Electrics:
    Pitbull LP-1S - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=5745
    Carsen Superstrat Rebuild - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=6284

    Builds in Progress:
    Silent Guitar Semi-Scratch Build - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=6809

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    Is there a particular wire I should be using? I visited the local Jaycar shop, and they have some ribbon wire there that looks very similar to what is supplied in the PBG kits, but on first inspection it looked very thin. Once I got home, I checked the kit wire, and it looked pretty much the same. What should I be looking for in particular?
    Acoustics:
    1995 Maton EM725C - Solid 'A' Spruce Top, QLD Walnut B&S, AP5 Pickup
    2015 Ibanez AEL108MD-NT - Laminated Spruce top, Laminated Mahogany B&S, Fishman Sonicore Pickup


    Electrics:
    Pitbull LP-1S - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=5745
    Carsen Superstrat Rebuild - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=6284

    Builds in Progress:
    Silent Guitar Semi-Scratch Build - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=6809

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    Hi Zandit, the wire gauge in the kits is OK but any thinner would not be so good. All of mine have been done with similar gauge however on any future builds I will definitely have a crack at using the vintage cloth push back stuff found in the PBG store.

    It comes in Black & White, quite cheap, and the best part is you don't have to strip the plastic as you just pull back a bit of the cloth, tin the wires then solder up.

    http://www.pitbullguitars.com/shop/u...e-black-500mm/
    http://www.pitbullguitars.com/shop/u...e-white-500mm/
    # 1 - EX-5 https://goo.gl/fQJMqh
    # 2 - EX-1 https://goo.gl/KSY9W9
    # 3 - Non PBG Tele https://goo.gl/W14G5g
    # 4 - Non PBG J Bass https://goo.gl/FbBaFy
    # 5 - TL-1AR GOTM Aug 2017 https://goo.gl/sUh14s
    # 6 - MMB-4 Runner-up GOTM Oct 2018https://goo.gl/gvrPkp
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    Kit style hook-up wire will be fine for the short lengths you'll need in the cavity, for longer runs you can use X core screened/shielded cable to minimise noise (like the connection to the jack). If you want high-end you can get the vintage push-back from the PBG shop.

    I haven't had a chance to draw up the diagram yet, should be in the next day or so.
    Last edited by WeirdBits; 19-10-2016 at 07:38 PM. Reason: Got me this time Waz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeirdBits View Post
    Kit style hook-up wire will be fine for the short lengths you'll need in the cavity, for longer runs you can use X core screened/shielded cable to minimise noise (like the connection to the jack). If you want high-end you can get the vintage push-back from the PBG shop.

    I haven't had a chance to draw up the diagram yet, should be in the next day or so.
    No rush Weirdy, I just appreciate the assistance! I still have plenty of work to do on the guitar before I'm ready for the wiring.
    I'll check both lots of wiring you and Waz suggested. Thanks again!
    Acoustics:
    1995 Maton EM725C - Solid 'A' Spruce Top, QLD Walnut B&S, AP5 Pickup
    2015 Ibanez AEL108MD-NT - Laminated Spruce top, Laminated Mahogany B&S, Fishman Sonicore Pickup


    Electrics:
    Pitbull LP-1S - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=5745
    Carsen Superstrat Rebuild - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=6284

    Builds in Progress:
    Silent Guitar Semi-Scratch Build - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=6809

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    Overlord of Music WeirdBits's Avatar
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    I think this should work, hopefully it's clear enough for you.

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    The dark grey wires are the ground connections and the light grey are the bare wires on the pickups.

    As you are mixing three different pickups from three different manufacturers there's a real chance that there could be some phase issues. Basically, they'll either all be in phase or one will be out compared to the others. You'll hear it if one is out of phase, when combined with another pup the sound will be thin and nasally, very distinctive. If it happens, chances are it'll be the Hot Stack and if that's the case its wiring will need to be reversed while maintaining the coil order for the hum cancelling when split. So, just for the Hot Stack, green would go to the red connections, red to the green connections, black to white connection and white to black connection (I think), bare stays the same. But, wire it as per the diagram at first and hopefully we'll get lucky and you won't need to change anything. If it's one the other pups that's out of phase you'll just need to swap their hot and ground (you don't have chrome/metal covers so you can do that in this case).

    Let me know if you have any questions/problems.
    Last edited by WeirdBits; 22-10-2016 at 08:27 PM. Reason: Coil ordering and potential brain meltdown
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    Holy crap!!
    Thank you so much Weirdy!! This is awesome!!
    I can't make head nor tails of it at this point, but I'll take your word for it that it will work!!
    Acoustics:
    1995 Maton EM725C - Solid 'A' Spruce Top, QLD Walnut B&S, AP5 Pickup
    2015 Ibanez AEL108MD-NT - Laminated Spruce top, Laminated Mahogany B&S, Fishman Sonicore Pickup


    Electrics:
    Pitbull LP-1S - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=5745
    Carsen Superstrat Rebuild - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=6284

    Builds in Progress:
    Silent Guitar Semi-Scratch Build - http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=6809

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    Ain't it great to have someone like Scott to come and rescue everyone like this. Man, you are a genius.
    # 1 - EX-5 https://goo.gl/fQJMqh
    # 2 - EX-1 https://goo.gl/KSY9W9
    # 3 - Non PBG Tele https://goo.gl/W14G5g
    # 4 - Non PBG J Bass https://goo.gl/FbBaFy
    # 5 - TL-1AR GOTM Aug 2017 https://goo.gl/sUh14s
    # 6 - MMB-4 Runner-up GOTM Oct 2018https://goo.gl/gvrPkp
    # 7 - ES-1 Runner-up GOTM Aug 2018https://goo.gl/T9BEY8

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