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    Hi Waz,

    Yeah it's Carved Mahogany. Cheers, I'll go back to 180 and work my way up. I'm not sure what finish I should do yet but I would like to get rid of them.

    Cheers,

    Alkay.

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    Mahogany usually has a reddish tinge which lends itself to reds, browns and natural coloured finishes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    Mahogany usually has a reddish tinge which lends itself to reds, browns and natural coloured finishes.
    Cheers Waz.

    Zandit's profile pic looks awesome so I think I might go with a natural grain on this one with some clear coats and maybe use a jarrah stain for the sides and back of the body/neck.

    Someone suggested using Feast Watson clear coat because its very durable and doesn't need as many coats as TO and it dries allot quicker.

    What are your thoughts?

    Would I still wet sand up to 12000 grit using this?

    Cheers,

    Alkay.

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    Has anyone heard of using a cross hatched sanding technique and then a light layer of metho to burn off the fibres?

    Cheers,

    Alkay.

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    Hi Alkay, never used Feast Watson so cannot comment. Reckon that most top coat finishes if thick enough would benefit from super fine wet sanding to take out any small lumps and bumps if nothing else.

    Never heard of a cross hatched sanding method as it is almost taboo to sand across the grain on anything as you run the risk of introducing scratches.
    # 1 - EX-5 https://goo.gl/fQJMqh
    # 2 - EX-1 https://goo.gl/KSY9W9
    # 3 - Non PBG Tele https://goo.gl/W14G5g
    # 4 - Non PBG J Bass https://goo.gl/FbBaFy
    # 5 - TL-1AR GOTM Aug 2017 https://goo.gl/sUh14s
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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    Hi Alkay, never used Feast Watson so cannot comment. Reckon that most top coat finishes if thick enough would benefit from super fine wet sanding to take out any small lumps and bumps if nothing else.

    Never heard of a cross hatched sanding method as it is almost taboo to sand across the grain on anything as you run the risk of introducing scratches.
    Ok thanks waz I might do a test run.
    Here is the advice I got:

    ...the way to get a glass flat surface is to sand in a cross hatched way, so thats basically just one stroke at a time, you glue your sand paper to a longish flat peice of timber, something like chipboard, in this case maybe 25cm by 10cm. Then you take just one stroke from top to bottom at a 45degree angle, top left to bottom right...then the opposite, and the last stroke is just straight top to bottom at no angle, then you repeat that entire process until you can put a steel rule all over the surface in all directions and get no light between the timber and the steel rule, then as you coat up, you go back and keep on repeating that sanding*process with every coat

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    Ah, Houston Mission Control, we have a problem.......top of your guitar is curved, not flat so part of the above explanation might not work. Even Micro mesh pads can build up with crud and easily add scratches before you notice however if in the direction of the grain they may not be so noticeable whereas across the grain they would possibly stand out.

    The size of the sanding block sounds huge as a standard cork ones are 110mm x 60mm x 30mm and the guitar kit micro mesh pads as per this link are 2" X 2" ... https://www.thesandpaperman.com.au/s...keep_https=yes and they are much easier to work in tight curves such as on a lower cutaway on LP's.
    # 1 - EX-5 https://goo.gl/fQJMqh
    # 2 - EX-1 https://goo.gl/KSY9W9
    # 3 - Non PBG Tele https://goo.gl/W14G5g
    # 4 - Non PBG J Bass https://goo.gl/FbBaFy
    # 5 - TL-1AR GOTM Aug 2017 https://goo.gl/sUh14s
    # 6 - MMB-4 Runner-up GOTM Oct 2018https://goo.gl/gvrPkp
    # 7 - ES-1 Runner-up GOTM Aug 2018https://goo.gl/T9BEY8

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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    Ah, Houston Mission Control, we have a problem.......top of your guitar is curved, not flat so part of the above explanation might not work. Even Micro mesh pads can build up with crud and easily add scratches before you notice however if in the direction of the grain they may not be so noticeable whereas across the grain they would possibly stand out.

    The size of the sanding block sounds huge as a standard cork ones are 110mm x 60mm x 30mm and the guitar kit micro mesh pads as per this link are 2" X 2" ... https://www.thesandpaperman.com.au/s...keep_https=yes and they are much easier to work in tight curves such as on a lower cutaway on LP's.
    Ok thanks waz.

    I should have mentioned I was thinking about doing the above for the back and sides of the body not the face. However I think its best to do what I have been with my sanding as you guys have taught me go with the grain. Haha...oh well just looking at other options thats all.
    Cheers,

    Alkay.

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    All good mate and hope I didn't patronise or offend you.

    As a kid I grew up around my father building or working on sailing boats and learned very quickly all about sanding as that job was delegated/outsourced to the unskilled child labour he had at his disposal.
    # 1 - EX-5 https://goo.gl/fQJMqh
    # 2 - EX-1 https://goo.gl/KSY9W9
    # 3 - Non PBG Tele https://goo.gl/W14G5g
    # 4 - Non PBG J Bass https://goo.gl/FbBaFy
    # 5 - TL-1AR GOTM Aug 2017 https://goo.gl/sUh14s
    # 6 - MMB-4 Runner-up GOTM Oct 2018https://goo.gl/gvrPkp
    # 7 - ES-1 Runner-up GOTM Aug 2018https://goo.gl/T9BEY8

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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    All good mate and hope I didn't patronise or offend you.

    As a kid I grew up around my father building or working on sailing boats and learned very quickly all about sanding as that job was delegated/outsourced to the unskilled child labour he had at his disposal.
    All good was just checking other techniques.
    How do you think a yellow stain would go on the face of this kit? Don't think a sunburst type effect would suit because of the nice spalted maple.

    Cheers,
    Alkay.

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