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    Looks good so far, but I would recommend trying to finesse the edges of the inlay so they are a bit smoother. If you are anything like me, if you inlay it as is, it will look good to you for a few minutes, and then you'll notice the slight wiggles and wish you'd taken more time.

    Definitely use what you have to practice, but I would suggest doing a few test inlay pieces until you feel you've cracked it, before attempting it on the guitar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blinddrew View Post
    For me the underline would work a tad better if it was a bit longer, so that it ran from the left edge of the right leg of the A to the right edge of the right leg of the H
    Yeah, thatís plan. However none of the off cuts I got have a length long enough to do the whole line. Iím wondering if it would work if I used a number of pieces for the line. Might look okay?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Barden View Post
    Looks good so far, but I would recommend trying to finesse the edges of the inlay so they are a bit smoother. If you are anything like me, if you inlay it as is, it will look good to you for a few minutes, and then you'll notice the slight wiggles and wish you'd taken more time.

    Definitely use what you have to practice, but I would suggest doing a few test inlay pieces until you feel you've cracked it, before attempting it on the guitar.
    Youíre right, zoomed up on a iPad screen you can clearly see the need for more finessing. I cleaned them up this evening but I can get them better I think.

    I also spent some time making a routing base for the DremelÖ not quite finished but nearly there - hopefully itís going to work!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Barden View Post
    I've got the StewMac one you're welcome to borrow.
    Thanks Simon - Iíll see how my home made one goes. If itís a total fail Iíll take you up on that offer.

    In the meantime we should arrange a meet up?


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    Well, it's been five or six weeks since I finished applying poly to body and it's still not passing the finger nail test.

    A week or so ago I decided to wet sand. It went okay but I went through a couple of times and had to touch up with stain and extra poly. The fixes look okay - but once you point them out you can't un-see them. It's more of a problem with the stain not blending properly rather than the poly.

    Anyway - now's it at 2000 all over and feels super smooth - but alas, still soft.

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    I'm not going to polish until I've finished messing about the inlay on the headstock. I've had a bit of practice now but I'm not ready to have a go at the headstock. So the body has plenty of hanging time.

    I can see a few rattle cans of nitro in my future.
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    Well, it's been five or six weeks since I finished applying poly to body and it's still not passing the finger nail test.

    A week or so ago I decided to wet sand. It went okay but I went through a couple of times and had to touch up with stain and extra poly. The fixes look okay - but once you point them out you can't un-see them. It's more of a problem with the stain not blending properly rather than the poly.

    Anyway - now's it at 2000 all over and feels super smooth - but alas, still soft.
    Well that's a bummer, as well as troubling. I've not experienced poly not curing especially after that amount of time. I'm not sure I would have wet sanded if the finish was still soft though.

    One thing I might have tried is dry sanding with medium grade sandpaper and letting it sit a while longer (even just a few days). I have experienced this with acrylic lacquer that was taking an inordinate amount of time to set. So out of frustration I sanded it a bit, and a few days later, it came good. I thought it may have been coincidence or my imagination until Simon B mentioned it another thread months later.

    My theory (I think Simon mentioned this also) is that the last coat cured quicker than the coats underneath and created a "skin" that prevented the solvent gases escaping, thus keeping the sub-layers soft. After sanding/abrading the skin the solvent gassed off and everything hardened up.

    As I said, I've only experienced this with lacquer with which the solvents are much hotter than turps, but maybe the same effect can occur. Dunno...
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    Next build - another tele!

    Well thatís the thing. Itís hard to the touch. If you sand it, white powder comes off. Itís not like itís smearing about when sanded.

    A few days after the last coat, I did do light dry sand with 800 before leaving it. It was around a month before I started wet sanding.

    When I say itís soft, if I push my finger nail into it, it leaves an indent. (Iím doing these tests where the neck plate is going to be). I sanded it as I remember someone (Simon?) saying that it would increase the surface area and I thought that I might also remove the layers that are preventing the lower layers from hardening. But as Iím burning through in places it seems itís not even that thick.

    The same happened with my PB kit finish. Itís got a load of indents in it from ďnormal useĒ. Iím wondering if itís either the poly / white spirit combo not working well together. Or Iím putting it on too thickly and not letting it dry enough before the next coatÖ. Thereís too many variables to be able to viably experiment with.

    Anyway - Iím going to leave it while I finish working on the inlay and then try to make a call on what to do next.


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    How should one assess how hard a finish is? I understood the ďfinger nailĒ test is the way to go? Should pushing with a finger nail leave any mark at all?


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