bits unknown, what's it do?

[Benderson]

I'm not one for mincing words, how is this lined up & fitted what ever it is?

https://www.buildyourownguitar.com.a...l=1#post178961

[Simon Barden]

You see your profile picture? It's got one of them on it. A string retainer bar. It's just a slightly different shape to the Fender one. Used to pull the strings down nearer the headstock face to get a good break angle over the nut.

Hope that helps.

[Benderson]

You see your profile picture? It's got one of them on it. A string retainer bar. It's just a slightly different shape to the Fender one. Used to pull the strings down nearer the headstock face to get a good break angle over the nut.

Hope that helps.

I see, is there an ideal position??

[Simon Barden]

I'd suggest you look at where Fender put it to start with, though their truss rod access hole is much further back towards the nut than the kit's one, so I can't see any particularly great place to put it where you don't have to remove it to adjust the truss rod. But with your test string on, I'd see how far forward you could locate it so that you can access the truss rod without pulling the strings down so far that they catch that ridge at the end of the fretboard.

It may pay to sand the neck-to-headstock-face curve back a bit more, so there's a bit less flat wood in front of the nut.

Other people have made these kits, so it's worth searching for their builds diaries and looking at what they've done.

[Benderson]

I’ve tried to find them but I’m think I’m using the wrong g search terms ?? I’m not getting any hits. Thanks for advice thought I’ll keep looking & reaserching


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[Marcel]

On my TLA-12 build I put it between the E & A pairs to between the B & E pairs. This gives a good break angle to the pairs of A, D, G and B while the two E pairs already have a good angle due being so close to the nut.

I fitted it after the guitar was fully strung as I didn't want the two screws fouling against any of the strings.

The choice of position is entirely up to you. The only reason the bar is there is to eliminate that 'Sitar buzz' sound from some strings that may occur when there is poor string pressure against the nut with the strings at full tension. On my TLA-12 build it was only the 2nd G string (the thin one) that buzz'd...

[Benderson]

Thanks marcel great advice.


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[Benderson]

On my TLA-12 build I put it between the E & A pairs to between the B & E pairs. This gives a good break angle to the pairs of A, D, G and B while the two E pairs already have a good angle due being so close to the nut.

I fitted it after the guitar was fully strung as I didn't want the two screws fouling against any of the strings.

The choice of position is entirely up to you. The only reason the bar is there is to eliminate that 'Sitar buzz' sound from some strings that may occur when there is poor string pressure against the nut with the strings at full tension. On my TLA-12 build it was only the 2nd G string (the thin one) that buzz'd...

hey Marcel been reading through your post on the TLA-12 you build, How did you find the centre line??

[Marcel]

I was pretty fortunate in that during my mock build everything lined up quite well, so definitively finding the centre line became almost redundant.

The neck fit on mine is quite snug, and positioning of the bridge PU in the middle of the routed hole was very close to ideal for intonation range and centring of my test strings over the neck. Only issue I had was in maintaining clearance around the bridge PU in the hole caused the entire bridge to be twisted slightly clockwise, so some slight enlargement of the hole was required. Enough was removed so that with the bridge assembly in the correct position the PU height could be adjusted without hindrance from the body.

If I were to establish a "centre line" then first I would loose fit the neck into the body and have it feel comfortably in the middle of its range of movement. Then I would use a 1m ruler placed down the centre of the neck and extend a line from there. For me the centre of the neck is most important and all parts of the body are only extensions from that line the runs down the middle of the neck.
If the PU routes are too far off that line then work needs to be done to either reposition the neck or the routes to be closer together along the same line. Remember that the "centre line" is your line that you are building off, so (within reason) you need to place it where you need it to be.

[Benderson]

I was pretty fortunate in that during my mock build everything lined up quite well, so definitively finding the centre line became almost redundant.

The neck fit on mine is quite snug, and positioning of the bridge PU in the middle of the routed hole was very close to ideal for intonation range and centring of my test strings over the neck. Only issue I had was in maintaining clearance around the bridge PU in the hole caused the entire bridge to be twisted slightly clockwise, so some slight enlargement of the hole was required. Enough was removed so that with the bridge assembly in the correct position the PU height could be adjusted without hindrance from the body.

If I were to establish a "centre line" then first I would loose fit the neck into the body and have it feel comfortably in the middle of its range of movement. Then I would use a 1m ruler placed down the centre of the neck and extend a line from there. For me the centre of the neck is most important and all parts of the body are only extensions from that line the runs down the middle of the neck.
If the PU routes are too far off that line then work needs to be done to either reposition the neck or the routes to be closer together along the same line. Remember that the "centre line" is your line that you are building off, so (within reason) you need to place it where you need it to be.

Thanks again for getting back to me, yeah i'm trying to get my head around how to find the centre line before i drill into the neck. it all looks good to me? I was assuming if i measure either side of the neck i could use that as the centre, does that work for the body?? i don't know. thanks again.