Spalted Maple top LP1, finished with Wudtone.

[Gavin1393]

Quote from dingobass on January 12, 2013, 20:53

Quote from pedro on January 11, 2013, 17:00
Thanks DB I think the Carmine Gypsy will look good on the headstock but I might get some clear laquer for the neck??- by the way (another thing....) any advice on where I can get a template for cutting the headstock on the LP?

Hey Pedro,

I always make my own out of cardboard. trace around it and cut with jigsaw....

I guess you could look at photos on the net, or go to your local Axe shop and secretly trace a Gibson headstock :P

Here is one....

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=gibson+headstock+template&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#biv=i|0;d|DEf9lY-KercF7M:

[keloooe]

Quote from andypwudtone on January 11, 2013, 17:43

Quote from pedro on January 11, 2013, 15:44

Quote from Gavin1393 on January 11, 2013, 11:57

Quote from pedro on January 11, 2013, 09:49
thanks Andy. Great advice. Also I dont recall seeing any posts on finishing the neck - would I continue with the Columbian Gold up the neck or would the Carmine Gypsy look better?

Hi Pedro

There are specific finishes for the neck...

Vintage Yellow
Vintage Amber, and
colourless

Not sure that I would paint the neck in the body colours....

haha Gav, I may have to take out another mortgage to get more Wudtone..

HI Guys we have four different tints designed for maple necks, I can't seem to paste a URL on here , but you can find them in our online shop.
Original Vintage Yellow, ideal for the old fender yellow you see on tele's etc
Aged Vintage Yellow ( my fave) , great for older looking results!
Vintage Amber, think years of nicotine staining from smoky bars
and colourless

These are designed for maple, and you want to rag on extremely thinly ( avoid an excess etc) to avoid streaking, after 3/4 really thin coats you will have nice even tint, some folks stop at 2 some do more , depends on your taste and so very versatile. I tend to control it so the main playing area on the back is lighter than the head stock and heel ends , Then apply top coats 2-3 also really thin is usually enough ( you don't use very much product at all) , If like me you like silky feel, leave to cure a week or two , very lightly dull with some fine steel wool whip on some axe wax or similar and rock on!

That's Maple , for Mahogany, I think you guys are on it , dye only kits with suitable colours such as Mahogany, Hot Auburn etc work lovely, but so does Azure Lagoon if you want a greeny blue neck! The natural colour of the wood and the dye determine the end result!
The coloumbian gold has both dyes and pigment so will colour well and give a richer darker end result.

Lastly enough coats of a pigment based kit such as dairy Blonde will solid colour!
kind regards Andy Preston


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Hey Andy, how would Dark Onyx suit a basswood neck????
Or what similar colour could I apply to give my neck a nice dark shade???

Cheers,
Callum

[stui]

I am doing some experiments with the Randy Rhoads inspired kit... Black Magic Woman sanded back to bare wood in places and then Carmine Gypsy over the top. Also scratched the surface up with 40 grit paper..
Then rubbed in Gold Highlights...
Interesting effect

Hey Dingobass, did you take any photos of this experiment? I was thinking of doing something similar and would love to know how it turned out...

[dingobass]

Quote from stui on January 23, 2013, 06:31

I am doing some experiments with the Randy Rhoads inspired kit... Black Magic Woman sanded back to bare wood in places and then Carmine Gypsy over the top. Also scratched the surface up with 40 grit paper..
Then rubbed in Gold Highlights...
Interesting effect

Hey Dingobass, did you take any photos of this experiment? I was thinking of doing something similar and would love to know how it turned out...

Hey Stui,

I put this one down as a failed experiment... it looked pretty terrible. It may have looked alright without the deep scratches though.

I have left it on the sides though because it works OK there.
Gives the beast a worn look.

[stui]

Quote from dingobass on January 23, 2013, 07:49

Quote from stui on January 23, 2013, 06:31

I am doing some experiments with the Randy Rhoads inspired kit... Black Magic Woman sanded back to bare wood in places and then Carmine Gypsy over the top. Also scratched the surface up with 40 grit paper..
Then rubbed in Gold Highlights...
Interesting effect

Hey Dingobass, did you take any photos of this experiment? I was thinking of doing something similar and would love to know how it turned out...

Hey Stui,

I put this one down as a failed experiment... it looked pretty terrible. It may have looked alright without the deep scratches though.

I have left it on the sides though because it works OK there.
Gives the beast a worn look.

Yeah, probably not what I was looking for...

How would Carmine Gypsy work with Black Magic Woman in a burst effect in your opinion?

[Gavin1393]

Phil, this is EXACTLY how my BLACK MAGIC WOMAN LP turned out...I kept sanding and sanding to the point where I ran out of paint and had to redo the binding.

Part of the issue (according to my cabinet maker friend) is that the wood of the guitar arrives in a 'polished' state and remains polished despite by the sanding efforts using 180 - 240 grit. He encouraged me to buy a 'toothbrush' shaped brass and steel brush which I then used to rough-up the polished finish. You can see this 'polished' effect on the sides where it appears 'patchy'.
I have also discovered that the filler that the manaufacturer uses does not absorb the Wudtone paint. The trick here is to remove sufficient of their top layer of filler and replace this with Timbermate Maple or similar.

[keloooe]

Quote from Gavin1393 on January 23, 2013, 09:12
Phil, this is EXACTLY how my BLACK MAGIC WOMAN LP turned out...I kept sanding and sanding to the point where I ran out of paint and had to redo the binding.

Part of the issue (according to my cabinet maker friend) is that the wood of the guitar arrives in a 'polished' state and remains polished despite by the sanding efforts using 180 - 240 grit. He encouraged me to buy a 'toothbrush' shaped brass and steel brush which I then used to rough-up the polished finish. You can see this 'polished' effect on the sides where it appears 'patchy'.
I have also discovered that the filler that the manaufacturer uses does not absorb the Wudtone paint. The trick here is to remove sufficient of their top layer of filler and replace this with Timbermate Maple or similar.

So, with my LP, instead of just sanding, I should give it a bit of a rough up with 0000 grade steel wool and then use the Wudtone???

[Gavin1393]

0000 is super fine steel wool....unlikely to do any roughing up of any significant proportions....you need to use the steel / brass brush!

[keloooe]

Quote from Gavin1393 on January 23, 2013, 09:52
0000 is super fine steel wool....unlikely to do any roughing up of any significant proportions....you need to use the steel / brass brush!

Anywhere I can get it from????

[Gavin1393]

Under $3 at Bunnings...