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    Well it seems that the humidity gremlins have finally found me! I went for a third coat of the intensifier to even out the colour across neck and body. It all went on well, no great issues but over the past week it has dried patchy and dull in places.
    I am picking that this will require a strip back and start again?

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    Hey FW,

    I didn't think you were after a finish with the intensifier coat? I would probably just take the gloss off with 800 grit toss up whether you need another intensifier and then start the finals. just a suggestion. maybe DB can clarify?

    Sorry, I've had the same with stain coats and have lightly sanded the gloss bits with 400 grit before applying the next coat and its worked well.
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    WOW, awesome work. I wouldn't attempt this on my 6th build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy40 View Post
    Hey FW,

    I didn't think you were after a finish with the intensifier coat? I would probably just take the gloss off with 800 grit toss up whether you need another intensifier and then start the finals. just a suggestion. maybe DB can clarify?

    Sorry, I've had the same with stain coats and have lightly sanded the gloss bits with 400 grit before applying the next coat and its worked well.
    Yeah that was the plan, but I was shooting to darken up the neck some more. I think the culprit is probably application. When I went to try and rub back all I got was claggy sand paper. I'm going to leave it a bit and then try and cut it back a little and re-apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter75 View Post
    WOW, awesome work. I wouldn't attempt this on my 6th build.
    Thanks Scooter, to be fair I probably shouldn't have attempted it on my first build either! It has been an interesting exercise though, I have learned heck of a lot in a short period, and that all goes towards skill base for other projects.

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    not much going on...just hanging around...drying

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    I have had similar thing happen from either applying too much or over working the application..

    Let it cure for a few days then give it a swipe with 320 grit to open it up and give it some tooth.
    I only rub in one direction and brush the sandings off after each wipe, this helps to stop the paper glagging up.

    I also give the finish a light sand between each coat, this helps to level off any high spots and stray cat hairs...

    The pic is after 4 coats of the new Ocean Mucus colour, left for two weeks to cure then cut and polished..

    It is still a bit soft, so after I leave it alone for about three weeks it should be nice and hard and ready for the final buff up
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    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    Cheers DB, I had reviewed some of the older posts on the clear step and what I am seeing is that I probably overworked the intensifier. I'm going to see how it looks after another coat of finish but if I don't like how it's going, I will be sanding back and starting over.
    On the positive side I have found the dingtone very easy to work with, and despite my ham handed efforts and the bits I'm not happy with it looks really great!

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    Sometimes it takes a few coats of the final before it gives an even shine.
    As with the intensifying coat, give it a light sand between coats and it should behave itself.

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    Well as much as I was hoping i could bring it back, i have had to resign myself to defeat with my first DT finish.

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    Overall it was patchy with some areas having a nice shine starting and others looking dry and rough. I had gone across it with some gentle rubbing back and re-finishing. cut way way back on the amount of final coat in the application but after 4 coats it just wasn't getting any better.

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    I fully believe that prep and application are at fault, not enough sanding prep, not enough care in how i was going to go about coating an entire guitar as a single assembly etc. Simple things done well give good results, simple things not thought through and executed in a breathless rush, good results are hard to come by i guess.

    So, with that learning experience under my belt, I shall regroup do some more sanding (because whats a day without sanding eh?) and see if i can do better on the second attempt. At least I know for certain, I can't do any worse. (fingers crossed)
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