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    so PK on your other DC junior builds is the neck pocket tapered ? they should be, all G type set neck builds generally are.
    I'd carefully sand the shim with an orbital sander to get a wedge shape. Shim will need to be at least 40-50mm long I think
    Once the rake angle is correct the action should be much better
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    Third Time lucky.

    After three different atempts to sort this neck rake I think I am finally getting the right result.

    1st attempt, was to put a piece of 3mm thick sapelle frm a headstock veneer on the heal. Not easy to work with and like concrete to try and sand down. The problem with this stuff on a basswood neck is like cheese and charcaol. the veneer was too dark and when I applied the colour it just got darker.

    2nd attempt, was to remove the sapelle and just sand the angle in. the end result was that I achieved a perfectly flat surface, problem was the rake was still 5 mm under the bridge. All I had done was parallel the base of the heal to the fretboard(35mm at both ends of the heel). Me thinks they had the wrong angle on the heel as I had sanded about 3mm of the front of the heel and none off the back of it. DOH.
    Note to Adam, drop the Set neck DC Jnr, after all it is only a bolt on neck without the holes drilled.

    3rd attempt, I cut up about 5 slivers of rock maple of differing lenghts starting from the egde of the neck socket and worked towards the heal in 16mm increments. I then sanded it nice and flat. I have started adding colour to the edge and it is matching in nicely, although you can still see a bit of the seam where the strips are glued along the side of the neck.

    To make matters just that little bit harder I am trying to work on this while the grand kids are here from Singapore. makes it hard to sneak out to the shed when the kids want to play games.

    Cheers PK
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    Nice idea with the gradients PK.

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    Thanks Nicko,
    I'd tried the single piece and it just didn't work, too hard to sand a taper on it.

    Wokka
    the Black was OK, considering it is from Sonor, which is the German trading name for Jinan Xuqiu Musical Instruments, The Yellow had the same issue as this the PBG but only a third as bad(about 1mm) as this Kit(3mm). The Yellow is from Sonor Kit supplier.
    It seems to me that they only really threw this kit together without really thinking it through. the Heal on the neck was as rough as guts. I mean the back edge was lob sided by a couple of mm. and Still is. This neck will never go right the way back into it's pocket. Which probably explains why it steamed appart so easily. I am planning to put a lot of glue into it this time around, as I need to reduce the small gaps around the seam of the join.

    Cheers PK
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    Kels, bummer about the neck problem ... but confidence and persistence (which you've got) and you'll nail it!

    ... just as you've nailed the colour ... really looks as sweet as ... the Carmine Gypsy really suits the JR-DC down to a tee!

    When she's finished, this build's certainly going to give the GOTM a run for its money!


    Wait a minute ... that sounds like Rock and/or Roll!

    SG-1 ... "Little Miss" finished in Flamenco Cherry Wudtone
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    EX-1 ... "Metal God" finished in nickel-plate (work in progress)
    ST-1A ... "Scrapper" stained and finished in linseed oil ... and with the "secret weapon"
    GR-1SF ... "Rocker-billy" (just arrived, work in progress)

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    Thanks Scott,
    I do like the colour it brings out the grain out in a real nice subtle way.
    This is the only PBG build out of the three Juniors I am building, and it is pretty much 100% PBG appart from the pots wich I changed out for 24mm CTS 500K pots. I did go looking for a more upmarket pup for it but the PBG will do just fine for now.
    As it sits now with a straight edge on the 'G' string slots I have about 2.5 mm clearance over the 22nd fret. So I am feeling happy about the set up. I've already leveled the frets, so it should all be real nice.
    If not I can always tune it to open 'G' and make slidey sounds.

    Cheers PK
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    After a week or so of reapplying colour to about 3 square inches of the neck heel I am about two coats off regluing this baby.

    Cheers PK
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    keep going PK, I think we will all be glad to see this one done!

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    Tks Stan, yeah it's close. be done if I didn't have to work for a living.
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    Glued again(at LAst)

    This should keep the whingers happy... LOL finally got an opportunity to glue this back together. Grand kids went back to Singapore on Friday, but it was Pissistently raining yesterday, so had to hang on till today.

    Should be doing fit off on either Wednesday or next week end. Got to work on Mon, Tue, Thur and Firday, so won't get a chance before then.

    PK
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    Kellza
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