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    /<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from Gavin1393 on January 19, 2014, 07:25
    The finish and depth of the gloss is perfect! Very well done. Can you give our curious forumulites a hint as to your process to get such a great outcome? Airbrushed? Compressor used? Spray booth? Stains, etc.? I think many can learn from you!
    OK Sorry Gav you mean a run down on this guitar.
    right well as much as I love the colours that Wudtone do , they are sadly not compatible with the clear coats I use and as much as that Wudtone finish on natural wood is stunning I like a very high gloss that's like a mirror. So if your kind of thing is that Les Paul or Strat that are hanging in the shop window that has that dive into the gloss look, here is how to achieve it.
    On this particular Guitar I wanted (like my SV) what we call the rock pool effect . Imagine looking into a crystal clear rock pool at the beach, through the water the bottom has this kind of 3D effect.
    That is the effect I try to get with the grain on my guitars. Through the clear coat you can see the grain in a 3D-ish manner. Unfortunately photo's just cant seem to show this but trust me you could dive into my SV-1 . Any hooooo's enough gabble and here is the process for my STA-1m.
    First the usual sand,
    then our good friend Timber mate (in this case Ebony)
    A good sand and try sand out as much of the Timber mate as possible but leaving colour.
    At this point I want the grain to be un even and not smooth.
    Next I gave a coat of color tone vintage amber then red mahogany.
    The reson for this is so I can get a glimps of the amber through the mahogany on the high peaks of the grain, achieved with a light fine sand when all is dry. Color tone is the only dye I can find that is compatible with clears.
    I then airbrushed the black burst with wicked paints transparent black. Easy to do as long as your airbrush is either pointing directly at the surface or into the burst. You must never go with the burst or you will get unsightly over sprays that you wont see until the clear goes on.
    Once this has all dried over night is best , We start the clear sealing coat as shown in pics above.
    This was two thin coats or mist coats of clear Acrylic laquer.
    I have sinced put 7 heavy coats on (with 600 grit in between to flatten the peaks and It has only just filled the grain. Clear coat will always follow the lumps and bumps so if you think it will fill on it's own with out cutting back each coat your kidding yourself.
    Ok I am now at the stage that I call the beginning of the proper clear coats. The 7 grain fillers only took a day by the way with infra red curing in between. Already I am starting to see the rock pool effect in the grain. I use an Iwata air brush gun and 50 liter 145 psi compressor I spray my clear coats at 28 psi and mix thinners to manufacturer instructions , I then adjust that mix to weather conditions IE: hot days more thinners. If you look in my Aces High build diary you will see my home made spray booth.
    By the way no disrespect to anyone but these kind of finishers are truly not possible with an aerosol can as you just don't have the control of mix and pressure . It's a small investment if you wish to have show room guitars with clear coat finishes .
    Air brushing is a different kettle of fish , simple bursts are easily done but art is gonna take a lot practice and a different kind of knowledge to learn.
    I now unfortunately have to go to work for 3 weeks and shall continue this build and progress reports when I get back from sea.
    Hows that Gav.

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    Sensational! I am inspired....and running towards the naughty corner to start and finish my Sentance early!
    http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au/forum/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=1258&dateline=1443806  448Gavmeister

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    @ Jarrod, thanks for sharing your technique - helps to have all that equipment !
    @Gav you never got released from the naughty room. Don't worry I'm still padlocked to the bench too. It's about AJ's turn for beer and pizza isn't it ? Still waiting for DB to put the damn wifi on !
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    @Jarrod - great information dude. Many thanks! I'm procrastinating about doing my first Acrylic spray finish, but advice from you and Andy has emboldened me. Time to hit the spay booth (ie. the back yard !

    cheers,
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    Great information Jarrod. Thanks for sharing.

    I am curious what your home made spray booth is made of. I built a "portable" one from Melamine (as I have to paint outside), but like the look of yours (appears to be ventilated and lit?).

    I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to learn from your experience at setting up your workshop (you've given us some good insight so far...such as infra red lights which I am now hunting down ). Any other insights you can provide us are greatly appreciated.

    Cheers

    Darren

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    Well this is gonna put me in the naughty room and DB will throw away the key.
    The spray booth is made from a 1000 litre Poly water tank. The kind that have steel frame work around them. I cut the frame to the height I wanted and turned it upside down to sit the tub on the base. I then put simple good old bunnings caster wheels on it. The whole tank cost me $50 from a place in Kenwick for those who live in Perth. I cut a hole in the top and cut up a bucket for the extraction flexi tube to fit around. I then just put 4 angle brackets on to hold it in place. The extracter unit was $150 from bunnings .I then cut a whole side of the tank out leaving 6 inches at the bottom to hold water. I then fitted a fishpond pump and ran the pipe around the walls at the top of the tank. I simply put retic sprinklers aiming directly at the walls of the tank to form a wall of water running down the sides. It's important to have just a gentle trickle with no splashing or spray. For $350 you have the ultimate mobile spray booth. Please remember to still use the correct spray paint masks and not just dust masks, your health is far more important then any guitar.Now the power of my extracting fan is powerfull enough to suck up any mist and overspray but well chemicals is chemicals. You may ask why the wall of water? well water is a fantastic solution for dust etc.... It attracts to it like a magnet and keeps it off your project. I set this system up for my airbrushing Motor cycle tanks etc... but now is now my guitar manufacturing machine lol.... If there is anything else I can help with please do ask, I get great results with this system and for the what is really a small investment (if you like painting things).

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    This the tank I used.

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    Wow. That is awesome Jarrod.

    Really impressed with how you were able to see a water tank and decide you could turn it into a spray booth . I like re-purposing things, but that is pretty damn creative.

    Thanks for all your info. Really is quite useful

    Cheers

    Darren

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    Not a problem Darren.

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    I've been paying a lot of attention to your builds and also your pointers along the way.
    There is much to be gleaned from your latest posts which should be of benefit to all.
    Sometime further down the road I want to do a "glossy" guitar and your information etc. will, Im sure, be a huge help.
    Love your ingenuity with the tank too 8-)

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