I doubt Adam will know until he's sent a few samples and DB has a look at them for him. At any trade show, they are only going to take their best examples along, so you really need to see some off-the-shelf kits taken at random to see the average level of construction..
You are absolutely right Simon. We just wait and see...
Nr 1: Red Widow LP-1MQ (Finished) ->Diary<-
Yes, I think it's best to work with the supplier we've had a good relationship with for 5 years, rather than switch now and risk unknown issues from them.
I will definitely be getting some samples from the 2 suppliers who have really impressed me; with kits and finished guitars. However, this won't be until very late this year as all our funds are committed.
Cheers,
Adam
adamboyle(at)pitbullguitars.com
My 2c worth on the glue issue is to convince the manufacturer to change the glue from the white to a contact type of glue for the veneers.
This is the only way I can see this issue being resolved.
There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....
DB,
For crying out loud, stop bringing logic into this.
Col.
I admit that I am an agent of Satan, however, my duties are largely ceremonial.
\m/
It should be possible to put something that shows up under UV light into the glue, so that after the veneer's on and it's stuck down, they can run a UV light over it to see the glue spots clearly and either remove them at the factory or reject the body if there's too much glue to make them good. It would also allow PBG to easily check the kits when they arrive at the warehouse.
If they have to start rejecting a lot of bodies at source, it might be a big incentive for them to improve their build technique.
It is not just glue spots on veneered tops but also the amount of filler they sometimes use too.
On my 1st & 2nd explorer basswood bodies there was lots of filler that took forever to be sanded away and it stood out like dogs $#@! being a much darker colour compared to the pale blonde shade most commonly found on basswood.
On the EX-5 filler near the neck pocket had to stay but it was a pain to get any stain to take and still showed up after multiple stain coats as nothing else could be done to hide it other than a solid paint colour.
# 1 - EX-5 https://goo.gl/fQJMqh
# 2 - EX-1 https://goo.gl/KSY9W9
# 3 - Non PBG Tele https://goo.gl/W14G5g
# 4 - Non PBG J Bass https://goo.gl/FbBaFy
# 5 - TL-1AR GOTM Aug 2017 https://goo.gl/sUh14s
# 6 - MMB-4 Runner-up GOTM Oct 2018https://goo.gl/gvrPkp
# 7 - ES-1 Runner-up GOTM Aug 2018https://goo.gl/T9BEY8
Congrats with your post nr. 3000
Nr 1: Red Widow LP-1MQ (Finished) ->Diary<-
Hello Adam, as in my welcome post I am new to PBG and will be ordering LPM-1 and the ES-3 and my biggest concern is the glue spots Im reading of. Is this common from the supplier? will PBG warranty any bodies? I can easily check the body before any finish is applied for any problem spots using mineral spirits for example but would hate to be stuck with a body that can not be finished as desired. Thx
Hi, glue spots have been a problem and it's an issue with any kit with a veneer, from all suppliers in this price range.
We have worked hard with our factory on this and have seen a marked improvement in the veneered kits coming through in the most recent shipments.
We also check every kit carefully before we ship it to the customer.
I can honestly say we get very few returns now.
And, as Brendan says, our warranty is very fair and we always favour the customer. so yes, you are fully covered.
That said, our terms do say:
"If you only read a few paragraphs of our Terms and Conditions, please read the following before making your purchase:Our guitar kits are not “Ikea Guitars” that you simply paint and assemble; they are the raw, unfinished product from a factory that produces guitars for some of the world’s best known brands.
...
Please understand that your kit may have the odd scratch, dent, mark or glue spot you have to deal with as part of your build. You may even find small cracks or other imperfections, which can be filled with no effect on the guitar’s appearance or sound. We are unable to guarantee flawless, blemish free kits at these prices. If you find a fault, like a significant crack, which cannot easily be repaired, please contact us for a return for a repair, replacement or refund."
Hope this helps.
Originally Posted by Garybrayguitars
Cheers,
Adam
adamboyle(at)pitbullguitars.com
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