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    Final steps yeah! Looks great PK.

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    Coming along nicely, good work on the Wudtone shine. More subtle than naughty room products, it will also burnish over time with guitar use giving more shine and ages very naturally

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    It may seem like it has been a hard road with this, but it has only been a Slow road, due to the Hard road on the Balck and Yellow builds. Should see this finshed in a few days. Time permitting. The fortunes of having to go out and earn money to pay the bills.

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    EPIC Fail. forgot to check the bridge height before glueing...... You would have though the little man in china operating the machine would err on the low side not the high side. Anyhow, not all is lost. steamed the neck off, took about half an hour standing over a hot steamer. but in the end it popped off easy. after all it had only been glued a for a few days

    Now I got to figure out how to shed a cpl of mm off the front of the heal without too much damage. or should I add some veneer to the back end....


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    Last edited by kells80aus; 18-11-2014 at 02:46 PM.
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    Veneer would be the safer and more 'oops friendly' option.
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    Ok Bits its Veneer it is I have a sheet of rock maple .5mm thick, so I'll work out how much I need by placing some strips on the back edge.
    the strings were sitting about 5-6mm above the last fret with the bridge wound all the way down, so it's got to move a fair bit.

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    Hey PK, make sure you do a mock build with both E strings on with the shim in place to make sure the action will be ok.
    I haven't built a DC junior but wonder if anyone else had the same problem.
    might be worth gluing the shims together if its multiple pieces of maple. A one piece shim would be better and I normally glue this in prior to gluing the neck.
    I'd ask Gav T has built 2 of these I think if the neck pocket should have a raked angle on it. It appears to be flat.
    Make sure you remove all the glue of the neck heel and wouldn't hurt to remove the carmine stain, the neck join will bond better to raw wood
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    You'll be surprised at how far a very small shim will move the strings. I'd say you'll only need one or two layers of the veneer.
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    I'll cut a couple of 6 mm wide sims and put them in the bottom of the route and check it before I cut the real ones. The rock maple sheet I have is about A4 size so I have plenty.

    I ususally clamp the neck in and lay the long straight edge between the nut and the bridge. But building three juniors I sort of missed a step twice(oops).
    I also had to steam the neck off the Yellow Junior. That was a toss up between rebate the bridge pins or steam it off. As I was already playing steam operator I went with that option. While that one was relatively easy to steam off I applied too much pressure on the neck and cracked the heal. It's nothing a couple of pieces of 6mm dowel can't fix. The Yellow junior wasn't as bad as the Gypsy. With the gypsy if I went with the rebating of the bridge pins I would have needed to rebate a mm of the bridge itself, and I just didn't think that was a good idea.

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    Had a bit of a play with the rock maple veneer.
    I got up to 3 slices and the strings were still about 3.5 - 4 mm above the 22nd fret.
    I am not keen on glueing four slices under the neck, so have ordered 3 piece of Sapeli veneer, total cost of $7.70, this stuff is usually used on headstocks and is around 2 mm thick.
    This will allow me to set a taper on it and slip it into the neck socket.
    Currently thinking of a way I can use a router bit to plane the taper out precisely.

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