DMS-1 The King's 4th Pitbull build

[McCreed]

Hi Mark.
I just caught up on this thread and see I got a mention!

I'd say your on the right track with your process but, FWIW, I didn't use sanding sealer on mine.
I did ebony timbermate, followed by water based dye, followed by wipe-on poly.
Simon makes a good point about the oil based sanding sealer with water based stain/dye. Not sure if there'd be compatibility issues or not. Worth testing as per SB.

edit:
Shame about the faux rosewood board. I would have talked to Adam and swapped it myself, but you're truly past the point of no return now!

[king casey]

I'd say your on the right track with your process but, FWIW, I didn't use sanding sealer on mine.
I did ebony timbermate, followed by water based dye, followed by wipe-on poly.

Hi McCreed, I was awaiting your valued input. That finish you achieved is definitely the 'red-rag-to-a-bull' target.
I haven't applied the Sanding sealer as yet.
One application of ebony Timbermate has hightlighted all the flaws that I need to sand out.
I did use red india ink on a previous guitar and it went well with the Tru-Oil, which I just happen to have laying around.
Either of those is still up in the air at the moment.

Yes, I could have kicked up a fuss about the fretboard.
Mustangs don't usually come with maple necks.
Despite being 'engineered' rosewood, it seems to be intact.
Once I've radiused it, I'll fine sand and see if a few lacquer top coats sort it out.

cheers, Mark.

[phrozin]

Why are you using timber mate if you're using a binder? Seems to be some weird methods on the forums I think people don't understand how to use products correctly, may be why there not getting a great finish

[king casey]

Why are you using timber mate if you're using a binder? Seems to be some weird methods on the forums I think people don't understand how to use products correctly, may be why there not getting a great finish

Apart from Timbermate the rest are simply thought bubbles being kicked around in an attempt to attract some positive approach.
I'm already aware of your disdain for Timbermate, but I'm only using it to highlight the grain.

cheers, Mark.

[phrozin]

Apart from Timbermate the rest are simply thought bubbles being kicked around in an attempt to attract some positive approach.
I'm already aware of your disdain for Timbermate, but I'm only using it to highlight the grain.

cheers, Mark.

There's nothing wrong with timber mate if it's used correctly not to make the grain stand out its more for a spot repair and definitely not used to grain fill under a painted finish it swells up like a bloon because it suck the reducer and up it goes, using Tru oil, wipe on Polly or anything else they are no different to any other topcoat, the best finish you get is determined by how well you get the base, you don't need a grain filler if you're using a binder you use a stain if you want to make the grain stand out, a Tru oil finish is really nice if it's done right, it's got nothing to do with positivity it's about doing it correctly.

You can take advice or ignore it that's up to you I did my apprenticeship as a furniture polisher I spent 4 years doing that and another 6 years doing furniture with kerby furniture before they shut down and I moved on to automotive refinisher where I was doing that for 25 years until I broke my back in 2014 and now in a wheelchair, personally I'm not a fan of those sorts of finishers on a guitar that's not because I don't know how to, everyone has there thing, but I'll all ways tell it as I see it, from what I read and see some Tru oil finishes have been terrible and that's not because of anything except except not knowing how to do it I didn't mention anyone's name. I wasn't having a go at you Mark you've done some nice ones neither do I think you're a beginner I actually concider you one of my forum mates, I'm not really sure why your so triggered, now you know why I don't post very often in future ill let you get on with it 😎

[OliSam]

Why are you using timber mate if you're using a binder? Seems to be some weird methods on the forums I think people don't understand how to use products correctly, may be why there not getting a great finish

I think j know what you mean. I didnt use a sealer. As i think the timbermate is a sealer anyway?
So i just used timbermate and put tru oil over the top of it.


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[king casey]

Whoah!! You really got to start using more full stops in your posts. I got 6 lines before the first comma and I was hyper-ventilating!

'Triggered'?

Anyway, If my post gave you the hump then I apologise.

Meanwhile...
Almost forgot to do the asymetrical neck mod.

Whilst sanding this sucker I forgot about the last time I got American Ash sawdust in my eye.
Got my fingers crossed.


That brings me to the 'Grant's Neck Mod'


I think I'll leave this until after the neck radius.
It means there will be more surface area for the double sided tape to hold.

cheers, Mark.

[FrankenWashie]

Whoah!! You really got to start using more full stops in your posts. I got 6 lines before the first comma and I was hyper-ventilating!

'Triggered'?

Anyway, If my post gave you the hump then I apologise.

Meanwhile...
Almost forgot to do the asymetrical neck mod.

Whilst sanding this sucker I forgot about the last time I got American Ash sawdust in my eye.
Got my fingers crossed.


That brings me to the 'Grant's Neck Mod'


I think I'll leave this until after the neck radius.
It means there will be more surface area for the double sided tape to hold.

cheers, Mark.

I’m liking that neck joint mod, nice work Mark!

[king casey]

I’m liking that neck joint mod, nice work Mark!

Thanks Frankie but it was Grant (neverwas) that I got it from.

cheers, Mark.

[king casey]

Forgot to add the headstock carvings




cheers, Mark.