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    An interface will be an essential start and then before you record any instruments or voices put the drum track down so you have a grid to edit to.

    The guys I am playing and recording with did a single back in 2009, it was never intended to have drums of any kind and was recorded without a click track and it is an editing and mixing nightmare.

    I'd also advise to record each drum as a separate track because the EQ and Compression is different for each and a single track will be far too much of a compromise and will sound like Ted Egan with his Fosterfone, as a general rule for a straight 4 you will have the kick on the 1&3, snare on the evens.

    Lots of tricks mixing drums to make them effective, I'm very much a rank amateur but the amount I have learned about recording and mixing in the last 4 months or so is just not funny.

    Feel free to ask away I'm sure there are others on here with far more experience than me and hopefully they will chime in and offer advice as well.

    I know it's a way off yet but VOXENGO Span is an essential mixing tool, it's a free plugin and allows you to see exactly what your EQ changes are making as you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave.king1 View Post
    An interface will be an essential start and then before you record any instruments or voices put the drum track down so you have a grid to edit to.

    The guys I am playing and recording with did a single back in 2009, it was never intended to have drums of any kind and was recorded without a click track and it is an editing and mixing nightmare.

    I'd also advise to record each drum as a separate track because the EQ and Compression is different for each and a single track will be far too much of a compromise and will sound like Ted Egan with his Fosterfone, as a general rule for a straight 4 you will have the kick on the 1&3, snare on the evens.

    Lots of tricks mixing drums to make them effective, I'm very much a rank amateur but the amount I have learned about recording and mixing in the last 4 months or so is just not funny.

    Feel free to ask away I'm sure there are others on here with far more experience than me and hopefully they will chime in and offer advice as well.

    I know it's a way off yet but VOXENGO Span is an essential mixing tool, it's a free plugin and allows you to see exactly what your EQ changes are making as you go.
    Invaluable advice there Dave K, I'll be def looking closer at your advice and plugins

    plan on spending more time makin music -mrs / kids /life / job permitting.....lol....beer gets in the way too...

    I was given a 'backup/demo' copy of 'Overloud TH2, which i'm loving so far, apparently works great withe reaper (which i havnt got as yet)...you can try a free verson of TH3 now for a week or so, worth a look

    thanks for the offer of future advice too, same goes for me if I can help any one out.

    also sure you'd be happy to know with the advice and generosity of others here i have been smashing away on the 'RedPine Lapsteel'

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    Cheers, Dave and Doc! I'll check out the USB interfaces pointed up and go from there! I dunno about mixing the drums separately though as I'm using my old Alesis SR drum machine for a very basic pattern with little fills on the turnarounds; nothing too flash as I'm flat out playing guitar at the moment! It will do user prescribed patterns, though and I may have a fiddle with it should the need arise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by corsair View Post
    Cheers, Dave and Doc! I'll check out the USB interfaces pointed up and go from there! I dunno about mixing the drums separately though as I'm using my old Alesis SR drum machine for a very basic pattern with little fills on the turnarounds; nothing too flash as I'm flat out playing guitar at the moment! It will do user prescribed patterns, though and I may have a fiddle with it should the need arise!
    You could even try making drum loops by recording patterns from that Alesis Drum Machine into your DAW and then editing it so that you have a one-bar loop of four beats, and then you can use them to build up your drum tracks that way, what DAW software are you using?

    I've got FL Studio, Ableton Live, Reaper, and Cubase Elements 8 installed on my main DAW PC, Ableton Live is a great piece of software, beat-matching is really good.

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    Doc... I can see your lips moving but I don't understand a word you're saying!! I'm really, really new at this - the last recording I ever did was analog and live.... this digital stuff is a Brave New World to me, eh!

    I was going to use the till-now unused Garageband program on the Mac to nail the thing together... is that not cool?
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    Quote Originally Posted by corsair View Post
    Doc... I can see your lips moving but I don't understand a word you're saying!! I'm really, really new at this - the last recording I ever did was analog and live.... this digital stuff is a Brave New World to me, eh!

    I was going to use the till-now unused Garageband program on the Mac to nail the thing together... is that not cool?

    Yeah, Garage Band is cool, I can see where you're coming from, I'm still new at digital audio recording too, it is a bit of a learning curve.

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