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    GAStronomist wazkelly's Avatar
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    Is all of this just a good argument for using shielding paint instead?

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    Time to get out a couple of theory books, if I still have them.

    Because I seem to remember that a Faraday Cage works by ducting the unmatched charge around the surface of the cage and this can then be directed to earth (as opposed to signal ground). Maybe I shouldn't have joked about "skin effect" and surface currents earlier.



    One of the really good things about this forum, is that on other technical forums I have used in the past a troll would have abused me for being a Faraday illiterate or something similar by now.

    Who wouda thunk buildin' geetars wud give the ol' brain box such a workout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    Is all of this just a good argument for using shielding paint instead?
    Now where is the fun in that?

    Hang on, is there capacitance between the paint particles? Hmmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dingobass View Post
    Spot on Jrod

    You only need a dab of solder on each join, but if you are anally retentive like I am about these things do the whole join..
    Basically welding the bugger together essentially... I always test the shield with my multimeter and I solder it up anyway, just to be on the safe side...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    Is all of this just a good argument for using shielding paint instead?
    That is a moot question indeed...
    Some folk swear by paint, others swear at it.

    In my experience it works ok but copper tape seems more effective

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dingobass View Post
    copper tape seems more effective
    Plus it is much easier to apply, won't spill on the body or anywhere for that matter and also once you are done with it it is ready to install the other electronics!

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    I would have no doubt that copper tape would be far superior to paint how ever most my guitars have neither and I simply wire it together and do not get any hum or interference. My Fender US strat does not have the cavities taped and neither does my LesPaul. My question is , is it really necessary?

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    It is possibly an old school thing, lets face it, just about every electrical do dad is shielded these days so the chance of picking up EMF is low.
    Also, most pups are shielded so this eliminates another possible source.
    However, it is probably a good idea to shield regardless.

    I would be surprised, (but given the crap F&G make these days I shouldnt be) if the Strat doesn't have shielding under the pick guard and the LP wasn't shielded with paint..

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    Strat has yes under the pick guard but not the cavities. The LP is a custom Black Beauty and quite frankly is not crap. It is a nitro finished model and is nitro in the cavities too. So I'm guessing the pre shielded electronics is the answer. Also my strat is a 60th aniversary (you have seen it) and is also is a superior guitar (not crap) lol...

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    TBH with you Jrod, if you gave me the choice of one of your Nebbies or the Strat or LP, I would take the Nebbie any day...

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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