Is there any way to fix it or at least minimise the impact?
Is there any way to fix it or at least minimise the impact?
Oh of course, its a Flamed Maple Cap you have there, definitely the glue. Maybe worth having a chat to Adam and DB about your options with regards to getting this one right?
What I would be doing right now is getting out my sand paper and having another go at removing the glue that is more central to the guitar body.
I am concerned about the glue at the sides as the caps are usually incredibly thin at the edges and you run the risk of sanding through the cap. This then means you need to remove some of the edging or you are forced into doing a Burst finish to hide the exposed parts where the cap used to be.
DB, any thoughts on this?
Gavmeister
I have had another look at your body of the guitar and can tell you it is definitely the glue. I think you might need to redo the sanding job on the top. You will need to take extreme care not to sand through the cap.
Have another go with the steel brushes where the paint hasn't penetrated the wood. Follow the grain with the brushes as you scour the wood. Then to finish, lighty sand the wood with 180 grit.
Good luck!
Gavmeister
Just hang tight guys, DB's been in touch and we've now sent an urgent email to the Factory asking what glue they're using. When they answer (they're usually very quick), we'll come up with a procedure for removing the glue as part of the preparation. (And we'll do a dedicated video on it!)
I guess you'll both probably need to be sanding back to wood around these spots (if not the whole top). We will supply you with any Wudtone you need, at no cost, if you run out because of this.
Remember, as DB says, there's always a work around.
Cheers,
Adam
adamboyle(at)pitbullguitars.com
OK, try Gavin's wire brush technique, going with the grain
Then give it alight sand with 180 grit paper and dab the Wudtone on.
Leave it to cure for two days and then dab on more, again leave it for two days.
Do not steel wool between coats until you have put the first base coat on.
I have gathered all the intel on the glue issue and posted it all under one thread - hope this is useful to you!
it is here: http://pitbullguitars.com/?page_id=4...wtopic&t=242.0
Gavmeister
Hi Adam, I don't think it's glue in my case. a) it's in a helluva weird spot as there are no joins there and b) the mottled look suggests it's more a natural occurrence than man made. I appreciate your concern, but I'm keeping the oddity and pressing on. Do you guys look them over before shipping? I only ask because it really was quite obvious from the moment I unpacked. Don't stress though, I'm not unhappy.
hey Hooper, in answer to your question, Phil W does look over every guitar he ships and he's a carpenter by trade, so he would certainly have noticed that knot. I guess, like me, he figured it was a nice bit of feature grain that should look good with the finish. I don't think he or I would've expected the result you got.
I'm glad you're going to keep going with it and I'm sure between DB, myself and all the other very helpful people here, we can get that top looking sensational.
Cheers,
Adam
adamboyle(at)pitbullguitars.com
Thanks for the replies everyone. I won't have another chance to work on it again until Tuesday night, so i'll have a go then.
Plan of action is vigorous (but careful) brass wire brushing, 180 grit paper taking care not to go through the cap then dabbing Wudtone. I'll take pics of any progress.
I have enough deep colour to cover the repair areas, but i wanted to give the neck another coat to get it closer to the body and might not have enough to do both. Is 2 coats of deep likely to do what i want on the neck? or should i expect the neck to be a lighter shade to the body? or will more base coats on the neck bring the colour up later?
Seems to be a common problem, i have similar markings in the exact same areas. Difficult to view when sanding and it feels flat when you do. Really only noticeable when you start staining.