Customer Query - Neck

[dingobass]

Quote from adam on November 7, 2012, 20:52

Quote from Gavin1393 on November 7, 2012, 19:44

Quote from dingobass on November 7, 2012, 17:38

Quote from Gavin1393 on November 7, 2012, 16:41
Me too DB, a Fender Precision or Jazz will be just the thing! I have been hanging onto some oversized pickups for this build in anticipation!

I did hear a rumor about there being a Beatle Bass in the wings.... Noice!

In that case I hope Adam has ordered two!! I'll kindly concede the first one to you!

Yep, I ordered a few of the Hofner style kits. These will be due mid-December.

Cool! Can't wait to see that one!,

Did I hear right that the LP1s have a Spalted top on them Adam?
I am dribbling like a hungry Staffy with anticipation!

[adam]

Yep, there's an LP-1 with a spalted maple top, they're here in Fremantle as I write. Quarantine have been sniffing around, but once they're inspected I'll be able to start shipping (after photographing). I'll warn you now DingoBass, they've got a bolt-on neck.

I've also got some ST-1 models coming with Maple fretboard. These are due mid December. I forget who asked for these, perhaps it was dMac.

[dingobass]

Quote from adam on November 8, 2012, 07:29
Yep, there's an LP-1 with a spalted maple top, they're here in Fremantle as I write. Quarantine have been sniffing around, but once they're inspected I'll be able to start shipping (after photographing). I'll warn you now DingoBass, they've got a bolt-on neck.

I've also got some ST-1 models coming with Maple fretboard. These are due mid December. I forget who asked for these, perhaps it was dMac.

Nice one Adam!
No problem here with bolt on necks

dMac will be happy with the maple fretboard...

Quote from adam on November 6, 2012, 15:43
Forum people, we've had this post to Facebook and I thought I would move it to here to get your thoughts:

"Ok, I'm having trouble with my neck on an lp1. I've done the measurement from the nut to the 12th and it's 313mm, when I did the measurement from the 12th to the saddle it's 316mm and I cannot shorten it any more as the neck is in all the way. Any ideas? And how much will this affect it?"

Nick Cass.

Any thoughts on Nick's best course of action?

Was this resolved?

[adam]

Quote from dmac on November 8, 2012, 07:46

Quote from adam on November 6, 2012, 15:43
Forum people, we've had this post to Facebook and I thought I would move it to here to get your thoughts:

"Ok, I'm having trouble with my neck on an lp1. I've done the measurement from the nut to the 12th and it's 313mm, when I did the measurement from the 12th to the saddle it's 316mm and I cannot shorten it any more as the neck is in all the way. Any ideas? And how much will this affect it?"

Nick Cass.

Any thoughts on Nick's best course of action?

Was this resolved?

Yes, dmac, Nick is sorted now. I've seen a photo of his LP-1 and it looks pretty awesome. He's sending me some better photos and I'll post them on the Guitar of the Month Forum.

[ncass81]

Hi all, sorry for the slow reply I am having trouble posting from my iphone and tablet.
The problem is resolved and neck now firmly(fingers crossed) in place.
been working on intonation as we speak. So thanks all again and will upload pics soon.

Nick

Quote from ncass81 on November 8, 2012, 11:02
Hi all, sorry for the slow reply I am having trouble posting from my iphone and tablet.
The problem is resolved and neck now firmly(fingers crossed) in place.
been working on intonation as we speak. So thanks all again and will upload pics soon.

Nick

Cool, Nick, and welcome! Look forward to seeing the new device!

Just for the FAQ (the one Adam is compling, right, Adam? ) what was the solution?

[adam]

Quote from dmac on November 8, 2012, 13:41

Quote from ncass81 on November 8, 2012, 11:02
Hi all, sorry for the slow reply I am having trouble posting from my iphone and tablet.
The problem is resolved and neck now firmly(fingers crossed) in place.
been working on intonation as we speak. So thanks all again and will upload pics soon.

Nick

Cool, Nick, and welcome! Look forward to seeing the new device!

Just for the FAQ (the one Adam is compling, right, Adam? ) what was the solution?

I'm not sure there really was a problem dmac. He was 3mil out when putting the neck on. In the context of intonation and string bend, 3 mil is probably about right. Our Forum is searchable and this topic is in the right sub-forum so it should be easy to find if someone else has the same 'problem'.

[Gavin1393]

Guys, this isnt a problem. Its guitar 101 stuff! the 3mm extra from the 12th fret to the bridge is purposefully offset. Search google for "bridge compensation" and the like and you will find more info on this. As you pressdown on a string it bends and you slightly alter the string length, therefore you need to alter the scale length slightly owing to this. This is why you have six saddles to adjust to get perfect intonation!

See my earlier post

Quote from Gavin1393 on November 8, 2012, 14:06
Guys, this isnt a problem. Its guitar 101 stuff!

See my earlier post

Gavin, while it's 101 stuff to you, not every Pit Bull customer here knows this.

It's nice to have this documented; it's often best to have the original person with the problem document the "fix." That way more people get involved and not just a few. It is also useful for it to be present somewhere if it's not mentioned in the docs, or until it's mentioned in the docs.

BTW, I'm a Buzz Feiten system installer. (There's only two retrofitters in NSW : http://buzzfeiten.com/dealers/asia/asiaan.htm I really should get my details updated. It's been a few months...) You forgot about how the striking of the strings also creates stretching, increasing the scale length and increasing pitch. So the questions now include whether you tune to attack or decay? Tune open A to 110Hz on attack, then tune it to 110Hz on decay, and see which is more pleasing to the ear. Then try all the As on your fretboard to a tuner that shows Hz and see how many of them are on a correct derivation of 440Hz.

It is impossible to play Bach's "Well-Tempered Clavier" on a guitar in a standard setup. There's heaps I can add to this whole concept of tuning and intonation which can be left out as too complex, but I will ask you why do you think most LP players tune down half a step?