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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    Very, very nice.

    Did you get the split coil push pull wiring to work the way you wanted? Does it make much tonal difference with the generic Chinese PUP's?
    I got it to work first time....thanks to you and Weirdy....thank you.

    In reality with these pickups it just seems to drop the bounce for buck in the pickups. It seems to quieten them down....like a tonal drop without rolling the treble off. Similar to a chinese jazz bass pickup.....jack the Roland up a little and all is good....sounds different. I love the combinations available...nice option.

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    On the Bensons it seemed a bit more obvious and coil split dropped some of the beefiness of the humbucker on it's own. Handy to have a few options to play with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    On the Bensons it seemed a bit more obvious and coil split dropped some of the beefiness of the humbucker on it's own. Handy to have a few options to play with.
    It is funny WAZ...maybe I am just looking for something.....but with both pots pushed to the humbucking position I think the Bass has more punch. Maybe connecting each coil to its own circuit has guaranteed connections....whereas my average soldering may have not with the twist and dip method.

    Either way....save some money and try a set of Seymour Duncan 4 string Phase II passives I think.

    She is different in the hands....holding position....but so smooth when you pluck a string....feels very comfortable. My favourite is still a P Bass I made a couple of years ago...but this is a close second....in front of my Yamaha BB series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzbike View Post
    It is funny WAZ...maybe I am just looking for something.....but with both pots pushed to the humbucking position I think the Bass has more punch. Maybe connecting each coil to its own circuit has guaranteed connections....whereas my average soldering may have not with the twist and dip method.

    Either way....save some money and try a set of Seymour Duncan 4 string Phase II passives I think.

    She is different in the hands....holding position....but so smooth when you pluck a string....feels very comfortable. My favourite is still a P Bass I made a couple of years ago...but this is a close second....in front of my Yamaha BB series.
    Good stuff Ozzie. Comfortable shape to play sitting down.

    EMG do a soapbar passive or active that would fit too and possibly better priced than SD's.

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    Nice one ozz a great looking bass


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    The sizings.

    Coops,

    I have this Explorer bass I am nearly finished and it has a three point bridge.....took these photos to help...
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    Measurements.

    I got the micrometer out and measured the bushing and the hole.

    The bushing is tapered and this measurement is up the top at its widest.

    The hole has a little body filler and finish etc hanging around the top of the hole.....so close but not too much.

    My view...maybe others have done it correctly....get some dowel...thick enough to give you a dimension of 10mm.

    I think most people that have done the hole filling have had to find a dowel that had the fluted sides and sand it down smooth.

    So you need a dowel that gives you a smooth side of ten mm diameter.

    I would suggest gluing the holes and re drilling to the size you thinnest end of the bushing measures.....so just under 10mm.

    I wish you luck....I don't think epoxy on its own will hold the bushing in against the pull of the big bass strings.

    **I just had a read and thought about my advice. I don't think 10mm will help.....I think the hole you will drill needs to be 10mm...so the dowel will need to be thicker than that I think. Oh, I hope somebody else with better skills can help.***

    You will then have the issue of the earth wire hole.....ouch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzbike View Post
    I got the micrometer out and measured the bushing and the hole.

    The bushing is tapered and this measurement is up the top at its widest.

    The hole has a little body filler and finish etc hanging around the top of the hole.....so close but not too much.

    My view...maybe others have done it correctly....get some dowel...thick enough to give you a dimension of 10mm.

    I think most people that have done the hole filling have had to find a dowel that had the fluted sides and sand it down smooth.

    So you need a dowel that gives you a smooth side of ten mm diameter.

    I would suggest gluing the holes and re drilling to the size you thinnest end of the bushing measures.....so just under 10mm.

    I wish you luck....I don't think epoxy on its own will hold the bushing in against the pull of the big bass strings.

    **I just had a read and thought about my advice. I don't think 10mm will help.....I think the hole you will drill needs to be 10mm...so the dowel will need to be thicker than that I think. Oh, I hope somebody else with better skills can help.***

    You will then have the issue of the earth wire hole.....ouch.
    The pre drilled holes are larger than what you have, mine measure 11mm or just a hair under, I can push the bushings in with one finger, so I definitely have a problem

    I've emailed the team and will wait to see what they come back with, thanks for your help.

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    Hey, yup sorry me again... sorry to hijack your thread.
    The team have replied to my email and suggested I wrap some electrical tape around the bushings before inserting them... before I answer their email I thought I'd get a second opinion, I'm not convinced that would work in the long run... a temporary fix yes, but I am hoping for a bass that I will own, play and enjoy for years to come and not have to worry about the bridge randomly pulling out one day.
    It's turned out to be a major downer having waited for this kit to become available again.
    I've tracked down some bushes (inserts) with a larger diameter... I could 1. Wrap electrical tape around the bushes supplied and hope for the best 2. Drill out the holes slightly to accommodate the larger inserts or 3. Take the larger inserts to an engineer mate to turn them down to fit the original holes.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks.

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