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    hey PK so looking toward the front of the neck pocket it was sloped to one side ? (not the break angle direction)
    Maybe you have raised the neck position by about 1.5mm so hopefully this will lower the string action a bit.
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    Tks WOk.

    I have a couple of plans to look at tomorrow.
    1. is adjust the tailpiece slightly.
    2 is steam the neck off and try again. and re position the tailpiece.

    what ever I do It will be alright in the end. I can hide the visible gap by steaming it off and fiddling a little. It should be easy enough to get off as it's only been glued up one day. I've steamed necks off a couple of times. it just requires patience, and no trying to force it apart. as that's how things get broken.



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    Yes PK patience steaming a neck off, otherwise you will probably fill the swear jar hahah
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    Quote Originally Posted by wokkaboy View Post
    Pest you should make up a cardboard template to do the wiring so you're not working in a small cavity and it will avoid burning yourself with the soldering iron.
    Yeah but it doesn't solve my problem. Either way its really difficult to get some of the wires done, glad I was able to snag those helping hands thingos, now there will be quite a lot less swearing!

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    Ok Problem solved. There is a small ridge on the side of the neck slot. I had thought I could just glue fill this. Obviously that didn't work So I will shim it tomorrow.

    Oh yeah the neck is off already. it's easy when you know how, that and soft glue helped.
    Minimal damage done, just a couple of touch up spots

    Shimming should give me that 1/2 mm or so that it needs to force the neck against the opposite side of the slot. It means the tailpiec will be mounted about 15 mm north of centre.(or is the side join actually off centre.. )

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    Last edited by kells80aus; 09-12-2015 at 03:57 PM.
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    well done PK so the swear jar didn't get any heavier ?

    Important the neck is a fairly tight fit in the pocket so shim will sort that
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    tks Wokks,

    I think what was happening is that the extra 1/2-3/4 mm of void that ridge had, allowed the neck to skew a little.
    So shimming should sort that.
    Steaming the neck off was only a half stubby job. took about 1/2-3/4 of an hour.
    I have some special thin scrappers I use. One of them is a StewMac bridge removing shim. it's about 1/3mm thick so slide in down the side of the neck real easy, this lets you know how far down the glue has softened. when it gets all the way in then the jobs done.

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    Ok, two things going on.
    1. The archtop bridge is destined to fail. It's just a bridge to far for my skill, as to get it to work the neck need to be re-angled steeper, I've put that one in the too hard basket
    The option for me is to some how come up with a thinner bridge base, so I have ordered one.
    But if the bridge post do not line up then I am still screwed.
    At the moment I have a temp base made by Staedler, I think the model is a 2B.
    2. The neck issue seems to have been that it was getting skewed because of that little undercut in the neck slot.
    It lines up now just a little bit north of the side join. the alignment over the pickups is also much better.

    My options if I can't sort the archtop bridge is to re-drill the bridge post hole. It's not my favored pathway, but at least it is a proven outcome.

    Cheers PK
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    Last edited by kells80aus; 11-12-2015 at 03:28 PM.
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    It's been a long time coming

    It's probably appropriate to introduce this delightful guitar with beautiful blues song.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEBlaMOmKV4

    It has a been a long time coming, and a change had to come.
    It was going to be Virginal white, but with the warmth of the wood in the body it had to be left open to view.
    What has developed has been progression into a the old worldly back street New York style blues.
    I had to make a concession on the floating bridge as the string spacing were way to narrow to suit this neck.
    I only have to put the pick guard on her and do the intonation. (still trying to find where I put the A string, I'd hate to break up a new set for one string)
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    Kellza
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    Quote Originally Posted by kells80aus View Post
    Ok, two things going on.

    At the moment I have a temp base made by Staedler, I think the model is a 2B.

    Cheers PK
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    Just proves the old saying, there is always a work around

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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